tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post5290828107975837385..comments2024-03-14T04:06:54.124-04:00Comments on GENKAKU-AGAIN (adam fisher): Glory, God and gutsgenkakuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-57930763179440063612013-08-21T13:27:15.533-04:002013-08-21T13:27:15.533-04:00Was that the same Dante who invented the very-part...Was that the same Dante who invented the very-particular hell later adopted by Christians?<br /><br />Oh well ... hallelujah!genkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-63272335055461241652013-08-21T12:53:24.146-04:002013-08-21T12:53:24.146-04:00The company of saints is sweet, or as Dante wrote:...The company of saints is sweet, or as Dante wrote:<br /><br />“The love of God, unutterable & perfect, <br /> flows into a pure soul the way that light <br /> rushes into a transparent object. <br /> The more love it finds, the more it gives itself; <br /> so that, as we grow clear and open, <br /> the more complete the joy of heaven is. <br /> And the more souls who resonate together, <br /> the greater the intensity of their love, <br /> and, mirror like, each soul reflects the other." <br />Bobhttp://feelingtoinfinity.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-38373120423113655322013-08-21T12:38:20.763-04:002013-08-21T12:38:20.763-04:00Bob -- I have more books about Ramakrishna and his...Bob -- I have more books about Ramakrishna and his 'offspring' than I would care to think about -- all gathering mold in the basement. A wonderful and influential force, for sure. And I have no doubt that many were touched ... though whether they "had no doubt" I am in no position to judge. It does occur to me that if, in fact, they had no doubt, I wonder why they kept hanging around with Ramakrishna.genkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-40190330809733749602013-08-21T12:01:05.449-04:002013-08-21T12:01:05.449-04:00Those who met Ramakrishna and spent a little time ...Those who met Ramakrishna and spent a little time with him had no doubt that he was indeed a Paramahansa. Even years later, his presence continues to enlighten and inspire. Read Lex Hixon's account (Great Swan), for example.<br /><br />As for the one true thing, when you directly apprehend it, you will have no doubt or wobble. Nor will it be a matter of faith or belief, anymore than recognizing one's own face in the mirror.Bobhttp://theconsciousprocess.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-15410229422389928862013-08-21T10:53:51.659-04:002013-08-21T10:53:51.659-04:00I'd think a swan is as likely to sip salt wate...I'd think a swan is as likely to sip salt water and claim milk as anyone else. Delusion is central to the nature of belief/faith. There's pretty encouragements, and then there's the rubber on the road. And i'm inclined to believe there's no car pooling in such matters, just your own brand of poison.olcharliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309255390011851502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-83802125736914757802013-08-21T07:52:21.361-04:002013-08-21T07:52:21.361-04:00Bob -- As regards the "Paramahansa," I w...Bob -- As regards the "Paramahansa," I wonder: 1. What do these men and women call themselves and 2. How does anyone know such people are in fact Great Swans? Is the appreciation of others enough to assure "the one true thing?" Is belief really enough? It sounds wobbly and doubt-stricken to me.genkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-70842288251116071272013-08-20T21:32:22.895-04:002013-08-20T21:32:22.895-04:00Ah, what occurred to me in that story, especially ...Ah, what occurred to me in that story, especially in terms of the context here, is that single drop of milk is the one true thing in the vast ocean of religious belief. What is that one true thing, and why are the great Realizers in the Hindu tradition sometimes called "Paramahansa" (Great Swan)?Bobhttp://theconsciousprocess.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-10480882054291768632013-08-20T17:36:54.345-04:002013-08-20T17:36:54.345-04:00Bob -- In Hinduism, there is the mythological tale...Bob -- In Hinduism, there is the mythological tale of a swan that can sip a single drop of milk from a vast ocean... a nudging image suggesting that anyone not be satisfied with mere praise or mere blame... or anyway that's how I hear it. <br /><br />Is there any beloved or despised organization that does not invite/require investigation and a willingness to take responsibility? I'm not saying it's easy or pleasant, but I do think them's the cards. The road to hell is paved with good intentions; the road to heaven is paved with evil bricks. Read 'em and weep ... something like that. This hand of cards is this hand of cards ... let's own it.genkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-12787702161358544762013-08-20T17:17:47.540-04:002013-08-20T17:17:47.540-04:00No problem, didn't catch your mention of its c...No problem, didn't catch your mention of its current unavailability. Maybe a heads-up when it is, Thanks Adam!<br /><br />Btw, I would probably qualify as the choir when the preaching turns to the historical evidence for the corruption of religion . . . . <br />Bobhttp://theconsciousprocess.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-83197100072416667942013-08-20T14:31:21.905-04:002013-08-20T14:31:21.905-04:00Bob -- As I tried to indicate, I would have linked...Bob -- As I tried to indicate, I would have linked it, but it has not yet become available on the Internet. I realize that writing about it is undermined by the lack of supporting evidence, but the essay got under my skin enough to make me want to blow off emotional steam.<br /><br />Your request is warranted and I certainly don't expect anyone to spread their credulous legs for my appreciation of what is not available for others to appreciate. Take it as an emotional outburst ... though I will say the historical evidence is pretty compelling.genkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-6136767213825158992013-08-20T14:16:53.631-04:002013-08-20T14:16:53.631-04:00Link to Victoria's essay please . . .Link to Victoria's essay please . . .Bobhttp://theconsciousprocess.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com