Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Eido Tai Shimano

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I originally posted this in November last year. Later, I collected it with other posts I considered removing from this blog. Later still, it was suggested I put the posts back ... which I did. Today I got a call from someone who was looking for this particular post and was having a hard time finding it because it was in among other posts headed "putting it back." So ... I am giving it back its own space and title for whoever might find it useful.
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Thursday, November 12, 2009
letter to Eido Tai Shimano
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What follows is a letter I wrote in 1982 to Eido Tai Shimano, the chief executive of Zen Studies Society in New York and Dai Bosatsu Monastery in upstate New York. Mr. Shimano is a Zen teacher.

The reason for posting a letter of so many years ago is not to open the old wounds that bled freely in their time. Nor is it to deny that Zen Buddhism in America has made great strides when it comes to the sexual and financial abuses that it has faced and continues to face from time to time. Nor is it to suggest that I have not been a hypocrite. Nor is it to elevate my own status as a rebel or nay-sayer or promoter of some one true virtue. I too love Zen Buddhism both in its directions and in its experiential truth.

I am posting it as a reminder that the past is or can be very much the present and further that the 'scandals' that have occurred involved very real and particular people and that those people suffered in ways that are contrary to Zen Buddhist teaching. Not for nothing did the teachers of the past make upsetting the sangha a no-no. Not for nothing did they encourage repentance when it was warranted. And not for nothing were they aware that in the human sphere, however elevated and adored, the room for error was and remains a very real possibility.


November 1, 1982

The Rev. Eido Tai Shimano
New York Zendo
223 East 67th St.
New York, NY 11021

Dear Mr. Shimano:

Thank you for your creative letter of Oct. 19, 1982 with its equally masterful enclosure of Oct. 21 to Mr. George (Jochi) Zournas. I must say that as I began to read your work I felt some vestigial hope that you might in fact clear the air, turn some metaphorical corner and clarify what, over the years, has become murky with the stuff that Soen Roshi has learned to call your “lies.” By the time I finished reading your words, I was, of course, disappointed if not surprised.

“So much sitting, so many sesshins, so many dokusans…” and still Soen Roshi calls you a liar. Could you tell me why? Is this perhaps another encouragement to “bravely march on?” Coming as Soen Roshi does out of a society that takes pride in indirection, still he uses this most direct word, “liar.” Why? Coming as he does out of a discipline that enjoins confession and straight-forwardness, he calls you a liar. Why? Among the monks at Dai Bosatsu last summer you managed to plant the idea that Soen Roshi was an alcoholic and/or senile. But why would a senile alcoholic even bother to call you a liar? Politics, you say? – because Soen Roshi wants Dai Bosatsu, to become king of the some American Zen castle? If Soen Roshi actually did want Dai Bosatsu, why not give it to him? Do you not owe him a great debt for his teaching, perhaps as Torei felt he owed Hakuin? As a ‘true man without rank,’ with so many sesshins, so much sitting, and so many dokusans behind you, surely you recognize that the toys of Zen Buddhism – the robes and monasteries and power – are only dreams. Could you, a ‘Zen Mater,’ be fooled by a dream?

But this, of course, is not your understanding. Your understanding seems to be that They are all out to get you – you who are blameless in administration, honest in the dokusan room, pure and “fair” and deserving of respect from those who support and make possible your meaning as a person of rank. It is the questioners who are “insane” or full of “intense personal hatred” or want Your zendo or want Your monastery or hate you because you have money and they have not or don’t understand the ‘Japanese’ group and you…you bear it all so remarkably well, so staunch and patient. You are really very good at it: masterful, if not the master.

Besides those Jochi George Zournas mentioned in his letter (those Others who were out to get you), I would like to take this opportunity to recollect some others, perhaps not quite so august, who have left our own sangha. I am not now referring to those who left because they moved or to those who made an easy personal choice, but rather to those who left after some discovery in that beautiful zendo where there is room for our lifelong practice. True, some left in anger or confusion, but what was it they really discovered? Is it possible they discovered what Soen Roshi called your “lies?” I really don’t know, but I recollect them now and express my sorrow at their leaving: Daishin Peter Gamby, Maishin Mike Sopko, Reimon Ray Crivello, Genmyo Elihu Smith, Sojun George Seraganian, Bunyu David Bogart, Roca Lorca Morello (all of whom were residents as Sho Bo Ji with your blessings),Kanzan Bruce Rickenbacker (your monk who memorized the whole of the Diamond Sutra), Daiko Charles Carpenter (another of your monks), Shoro Lou Nordstrom (another of your monks), Kozen Peter Kaufman (another of your monks), Jonen Sheila Carmen (pseudonym), Wendy Megerman, Nennen Merry White, Toni Snow, Reishu Jim Gordon, Shinso Merete Galesi, Ishin Peter Mathiessen, Jean Day, Carol Binswanger, Jochi George Zournas, Wado Vicki Gerdy, Rinko Peggy Crawford and Mushin Frank LoCicero. You will recall, or course, that, over the years, the list has grown much, much, much longer and is filled with people who did not show sufficient “skepticism about rumors,” as you so quaintly put it.

How many of them came to you directly in 1975 and 1979 (when what were humorously referred to as the “Fuck Follies I” and the ”Fuck Follies II” were unveiled)? How many? Was it 10 or perhaps 20? Without any exception I know of, each of those who came to you directly came in a spirit of admiration and love, in hopes of clarifying a delicate matter without public exposure. The situation: your manipulation of the dokusan setting for your own periodic sexual satisfaction (seducing women); treating lovers taken from within the sangha with contempt once you had finished with them; and taking no candid responsibility for your own behavior but rather answering direct, honest and caring queries with, in one form or another, the line you used in a jam-packed zendo in 1975: “It’s none of your business.”

The line of people outside your door is long, very, very long. In my mind, they wait silently – the They and Them whom you so easily accuse of insanity or intense personal hatred. A long line of crazy people outside your door. What brought them there? Even crazy people have their reasons, don’t you agree?

Look! There’s Merry White. Remember her? She was the one who sent a letter to the Board of Trustees in 1979 outlining without rancor your sexual blackmail. It was she who wrote: “Personally, I found his (your) seductions very distracting and jarring during the first Kessei…I wonder now if I would not have been a better student in the long run without it. ... And last year (1978) during my second stay at Dai Bosatsu, it hurt me that he treated me very distantly for quite a while. When he warmed up, it became sexual again. That kind of either/or situation made it very difficult for me (or, I would think, any woman) to be his student. You want his attention and his help, and that, I think, is how it begins. He takes this emotional opening-up, which is normal and right in a spiritual student-teacher relationship, as a sign of sexual readiness.” Clearly the Board of Trustees, your Board of Trustees, took the only possible sane action by never fully discussing the matter and by issuing a letter, signed by Korin Sylvan Busch stating, “we affirm our confidence in Eido Roshi and his leadership of our sangha.”

And there’s Jane Smith (pseudonym)! Remember her? December 24, 1977, Room 1100A at the Statler Hilton after dinner at Mama Leone’s. Remember how the board of Trustees covered that one when Jochi and Korin, at whose instigation I can only guess, spread lies and rumors about Jane – how she was only dreaming of an affair with you? And how even Jane was drawn into the lies and told them on herself because she believed the truth would be harmful to you and to Zen practice in America? She was the same one who commented later in front of witnesses that “he (you) never even said thank you.”

And Carmen!… But of course you will recall this and much, much more.

On and on and on it goes down that long, long line. Person after person, Bodhisattva after crazy Bodhisattva, each of them willing their suspicions to silence. How is it possible they were so willing, so stupid? Perhaps it was because many people begin their spiritual practice with the understanding that the ascendancy they have previously granted to their emotions and intellect is the source of much suffering. Because of that pain, they were willing to set aside their own emotions and intellect (to the extent possible), and to be as faithful and obedient as possible. Perhaps they counseled themselves that intellect and emotion are more delusion. And perhaps they trusted that your emotions and thoughts were not based in delusion. This trust, however misguided, was surely human and understandable. Unfortunately, it was and is open to manipulation and deceit. There are many I know, myself among them, who practiced with you and were grateful to you, until, a little at a time, they began to wonder. In their wondering, they came to you in their twos and threes and tens, not even caring very much that you took lovers on the side, but curious about a wider pattern of contempt and manipulation. No doubt you saw them as insane people out to take your toys. Well, they didn’t get them, did they?

To some you said your Japanese heritage and samurai code of honor kept you from understanding or responding to these puritanical “barbarians.” Isn’t it odd for a so-called Zen Master who has lived in America for 20 years to claim he understands neither his students nor his environment? Isn’t such a person in the wrong line of work? No doubt it is equally insane to suggest that a real Japanese man would know something of discretion and that a true samurai would not exhibit contempt and dishonesty towards those in his own circle of honorable endeavor.

Of course it was more difficult to use this line on Dr. Tadao Ogura, the psychiatrist who offered to act as arbitrator in the present upheaval. He was the one who suggested taking three “impartial” observers from the sangha with him when he listened to the direct testimony of those involved. The group would then have reported to the Board of Trustees, your own Board of Trustees. Perhaps he too was one of the insane ones, the ones who had to be stopped. And stopped he was when Korin Sylvan Busch, at whose instigation I can only guess, let it be known that three “impartial” sangha members could not be found.

The long line outside your door does not say these things. They are silent. They are gone. It is I who say them, I, Kigen. I take responsibility for saying what I have said and doing what I have done. I have company, but I take responsibility for myself. I am one of Them, those Others whose fault it all is, one of the ones who supported you well, offered you gratitude, did his best to practice the Zen Buddhism of the Patriarchs, lied or remained silent for you on numbers of occasions, lied or remained silent to myself about you, endured and perpetuated your deceits, and, finally...went...”insane.”

It is out of that insanity that I also offer you my most sincere and honest thanks. I offer thanks without irony or sarcasm. You have taught me well and I am grateful. Besides the mechanics of Zen Buddhism, you have also taught me what a Zen Master is not – a teaching worthy of a true Zen Master. Although your teaching lacked the creative clarity, the nurturing of the Buddha Dharma, and the straight-forwardness of a truly enlightened man, still I say your teaching was fine. As I value my life, my Zen practice, so I value this teaching.

This is a time for potential new beginnings – yours, mine, the sangha’s. Always new beginnings. I pray now and will continue to pray that each of us may one day face death with strong, even breaths and perhaps a small smile of true understanding.

Thank you and goodbye.


Adam Fisher


It was during that same time period that I heard perhaps the sharpest rebuke I have ever heard in my life. At one point, Soen Roshi was talking face to face with Mr. Shimano and discussing the reported disharmony Mr. Shimano played a role in. Mr. Shimano offered his responses. And Soen Roshi reportedly said sadly, "Now it comes -- dead rock!"

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  1. I hear it is possible to literally walk through a wall if, and only if, all of the necessary alignments of subatomic particles are precisely correct.

    However, if I walk, in an unrestrained manner, until a wall stops me I should not be surprised if the result is pain and an unchanged relationship to the wall.

    "And yet..." strikes me as very much like walking into a wall and expecting to pass through it unscathed.

    Life is just such a wall and of course it can hurt when "met" head on and in opposition.

    Accepting this, living "freely" within it, and still daring to dream (strive to walk through the wall) is the unconditional realm so often mocked here by those who are upset by the fact they have failed to do just this.

    Or someone else does.

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  2. So Shimano walks through walls? Or gets others to think he does... and we've failed?

    Un-conditioned right?

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  3. "...the unconditional realm so often mocked here by those who are upset by the fact they have failed to do just this."

    Or, by those who are upset, because regardless of all of that, Shimano and those around him failed to provide due care for so many people who puy their trust in them.

    You can keep your unconditional realm.

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  4. "So Shimano walks through walls? Or gets others to think he does... and we've failed?"

    Probably not. Otherwise, the "failure" which evidently be"gets" such a sting would be having taken seriously the idea that he could do such a thing at all.



    "You can keep your unconditional realm."

    Thanks. However, I must say "it" does not keep. Hold on tightly and all ya got is nothing at all.

    Just so are made the sweetest of dreams. ;)

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  5. It sounds like perhaps for Shimano and those who see him as one still having something to offer students, the unconditional realm is a state wherein the mistreatment of students is not so important. Is that so?

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  6. P.S. I am trying to understand.

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  7. Shimano and Co.'s truth-hiding activities at the Japanese Wikipedia has been intensifying. Looks like they are determined to put a lid on the scandal.

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  8. It does look that way. I had hoped so much (so much wishful thinking) that Eido Roshi and Shinge Roshi would act in a way that would at least keep open the possibility that I could stay practicing with them. But each and every step that has been taken by Shimano, Roko and the ZSS Board since the mistreatment of students scandal became public looks like nothing but self-protection and denial of the harm done. This is so sad.

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  9. I am thankful that there are highly motivated Buddhists who contribute to this blog on behalf of the best interests of the ZSS Sangha.

    --Spike

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  10. "It sounds like perhaps for Shimano and those who see him as one still having something to offer students, the unconditional realm is a state wherein the mistreatment of students is not so important. Is that so?
    November 25, 2010 8:32 AM
    P.S. I am trying to understand."
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    Hi Anon 8:32a -- The unconditioned realm, to the extent that anything whatsoever can be said truthfully about it, is not conditioned by help or harm. It is not a license to do harm. It is not a hip-pocket aphorism. No one can lay claim to it. It is neither mysterious nor obvious.

    We can actualize it, but talking about it leaves honest (wo)men speechless. Please don't trouble yourself with people, like me, who speak of it. And don't be bamboozled by those who either attribute it or lay claim to it. This is bullshit.

    Just keep up your good practice.

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  11. Hi Adam,

    When you end up talking to yourself, trying to "understand" something, is it not time to bless the silence?

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  12. REDdirt -- Silence blesses silence ... isn't this a time for action?

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  13. "... isn't this a time for action?"

    Looking around I see how well the "damage" done is understood and also see the work necessary to produce a "correction" is accomplished.

    This "mountain" is clearly sliding into the sea.

    Why continue beating on it?

    That said, there are only a few "ways" into or out of, even when it's cold outside. :)

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  14. Now even the Japanese Wiki was locked with the Shimano's false statements, protected by Wiki.

    I am really puzzled to see why people cannot see what he really is after all the information available now...

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  15. People don't want to see... the implications are too much for them to face. They invested, and they now feel very insecure.

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  16. "People don't want to see ..."

    People also see what they want to see.
    see what they expect to see.
    see what they are able to see.


    Blindness is seeing what one wants to see.
    Blindness is seeing what one expects to see.
    Blindness is not seeing what one is able to see.

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  17. "Just keep up your good practice."
    Thank-you. I will try.

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  18. Good practice is

    Cherish and support all being.
    Know all being for what it contains.
    Understand all being.
    Accept and act this manner of being.

    In actuallizing this, one cuts open a turnip expecting to draw blood ...

    While this is simplistic and it is understood that no person is a turnip, a cut has been made and the expectation is not found to be the case, where is good practice to be found now?

    What now constitutes appropriate action?

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  19. This "mountain" is just the tip of the iceberg. The real work is just beginning.

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  20. "This 'mountain' is just the tip of the iceberg. The real work is just beginning."

    That's right, this is not about whimsy or a few quick ends achieved.

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  21. "That's right, this is not about whimsy or a few quick ends achieved."

    That's right, RD, in it for the long haul. No quick fix, and there never was.

    Just a vow that has no end.

    May all beings attain true wisdom

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  22. On the ZSS web site, under the Sanmon Gate it says:

    "Mysteriously, the Dharma arranged for Stefan Heringa, to become our caretaker last year. Stefan trained in Japan as a Miya Daiku (temple carpenter) and is offering his exceptional talent and dedication to this project. He has completed extensive plans and will be in charge of building the gate from start to finish. The estimated completion date is the Fall of 2011."

    and here: http://www.zenstudies.org/images/DBZCaretaker.pdf

    They are looking for a caretaker. What happened to Mr. Heringa?

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  23. I'm sort of losing the point of all this, if there ever was one. Surely no one needs any more "proof" that Eido Roshi is a very bad apple in the American dharma basket, if not an out-and-out criminal pervert and fraud. What are we talking about? Why are we talking about it? No one seems to be responding to any of the suggestions for action. I don't get it.

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  24. "I don't get it."

    Me either. A couple of days ago on ZFI, somebody posted a perfectly reasonable question about Shimano's legitimacy as a transmitted dharma heir, and nearly everyone on the forum responded by personally attacking the original poster. Moderators deleted some of his/her posts, even though there was nothing abusive in the deleted statements (and I know this because I saw the posts before they were deleted.) This isn't the first time ZFI has, via intimidation and censorship, squelched any possibility for sincere, candid discussion.

    On the whole, the Zen community seems more interested in self-preservation than in detached understanding and honest appraisal.

    If Zen is going to be nothing more than another abusive, dysfunctional, secretive cult, I will enjoy watching its predictable demise. Surely there are alternative practices that don't involve being lied to and victimized.

    Move over, FLDS!

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  25. How about trying Scientology? Just one of many, what did you call them, alternative practices, all just waiting for you to hop on board!

    Zen was never perfect, Zen is not so now, and tomorrow, guess what .....?

    What is it about this you do not get?

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  26. Re: Zen Forum Internation (ZFI)

    I found these comments a site called on NewBuddhist.com written by user allanstevns

    "All that i know is that "Zen forum international" was made in response to the banning of a group of western zen monks and masters from E-sangha.

    "It seems there has been some controversies on E-sangha which resulted in the banning of these zen monks - I dont know what happpened on E-sangha, but as far is i now, it should be the main reason why "ZFI" whas born - and someone tells me that a Theravada forum was formed for the same reasons."

    Does anyone know what the supposed problems were?

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  27. Never mind "Zen". Probably makes just as much sense to say "Zen" was always perfect, is so now, and tomorrow whatever. How about trying a modicum of politeness, rather than a dollop of sarcasm? I would assume the issue is what degree of responsibility we all have to maintain some semblance of sober, earnest Dharma practice, as opposed to the exploitative and criminal abuses that the Shimano Dharma seems to have entailed. The fact that there will always be criminals is no reason to disband the police. Is this stupid, gross crap something we want to allow as within the norm of American Zen? Count me out. I'll just go back to the Baptist Church, which at least does some works of charity, and does not defend institutional fraud, deceit, and rape.

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  28. my faith in zen practice is unshakeable, and the despicable behavior of eido, baker maezumi-- whomever--could never effect that faith. the irony is that these corrupted teachers have been able to impart this practice to as many as they have. and of these, many lost faith, if they ever had it. i'd say once you do have it, its hard to lose.

    the baptist church has had their share of frauds and phonies too. though you gotta love'em for giving the world rock and roll, and so many wonderful and talented musicians... .and who was raped? you know the definition of this word?

    the hare krishnas are still around, but they have had their share of frauds and phonies.

    i'd say --keep the faith!! DON'T LET EM BRING YOU DOWN. Finding a teacher, organization, as pure as the smile on a newborn babe may be a difficult job.

    as some wise zen man on this blog once said, the practice DOESN't LIE.

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  29. "the practice DOESN't LIE."

    Well apparently, either the practice DOES lie, or Shimano doesn't practice...in which case he did not "impart the practice" to anyone else. Or is this a case of "those who can't do, teach"?

    Honestly, if Shimano's behavior exemplifies the fruits of a lifetime's worth of authentic Zen practice, I'll take my chances meditating on my own and consulting spiritual friends who I know won't claim superiority, take my money, abuse my trust, attempt to seduce me, or make me listen to them sing "The Impossible Dream".

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  30. The rape was that of the Unconditional Realm.

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  31. rape    /reɪp/ [reyp] noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
    –noun
    1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
    2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
    3. statutory rape.
    4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
    5. Archaic . the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
    –verb (used with object)
    6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
    7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
    8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.
    –verb (used without object)
    9. to commit rape.

    From Dictionary.com. Seems to fit, to me.

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  32. "Dai Bosatsu Zendo, a Rinzai Zen Buddhist Monastery located in the Catskill Mountains of upstate New York is currently looking for a Caretaker/Maintenance Manager."

    What happened to the Temple Carpenter/Caretaker who was going to build the Sanmon Gate? In fact what happened to the Sanmon Gate? It disappeared from mention on the ZSS website again.

    Perhaps yet another bright hands-on guy smelled the coffee?

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  33. BTW --

    Besides announcing the need for a caretaker, ZSS has ELIMINATED reference to it's "ethical" problems on it's website.

    It now also includes the biography and vision of Chayat.

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  34. "i'd say once you do have it, its hard to lose."

    I think so too.


    "I'll just go back to the Baptist Church,..."

    It is interesting to note concerning "Baptists" that many legitimate spiritual "teachers" from cultures other than Western, politely suggest, to someone looking at their "profession" as a possible way forward, to search within their own traditions.

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  35. "On the whole, the Zen community seems more interested in self-preservation than in detached understanding and honest appraisal."

    This has more to do with human nature than with Zen practice. But it does seems that the Zen community has immature leaders with incomplete training. Isn't this to be expected at this juncture in american Zen? Further, throughout the history of Zen there have been teachers who legitimately have criticized other teachers sometimes with good reason (I'm sure non-leaders have had legitimate opinions as well.)

    "If Zen is going to be nothing more than another abusive, dysfunctional, secretive cult, I will enjoy watching its predictable demise. Surely there are alternative practices that don't involve being lied to and victimized."

    This heartbreaking statement seems to be based on your limited experience with Zen Studies Society. You may want to consider taking some time and exploring at least a couple of other Zen groups who are not affiliated with Shimano or his enablers, if there are other groups in your area, otherwise widen your search.

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  36. Concerning "the ... vision of Chayat."

    “Here we are in the cradle of democracy,” she says, speaking of the ancestral lands of the Onondaga Nation, where the Zen Center makes its home. “It was the Onondagas to whom the founders of the United States looked for guidance when crafting the Constitution;.."

    A little "gem" oft overlooked as "history" is it not the history as well of ZSS?

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  37. "Honestly, if Shimano's behavior exemplifies the fruits of a lifetime's worth of authentic Zen practice, I'll take my chances meditating on my own and consulting spiritual friends who I know won't claim superiority, take my money, abuse my trust, attempt to seduce me, or make me listen to them sing 'The Impossible Dream'".

    I'm with you.And that is what's right action, for me.

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  38. P.S. That, and keeping this information out there, through places like this blo, so others may be warned to stay away.

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  39. "That's right, RD, in it for the long haul. No quick fix, and there never was."

    Was there even a "slow fix", or is there one now???

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  40. Is there some reason the monks/sangha of DBZ can't do the majority of the basic maintenance themselves? A willingness to get one's hands dirty and engage in physical labor would seem to be in keeping with "right livelihood" and doesn't necessarily preclude practice. Temporarily trade that robe for a pair of jeans and that zafu for a seat on the riding lawnmower. Learn to do basic plumbing, carpentry and electrical repairs. There's more to practice than sitting zazen.

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  41. Anon 2:01p -- I was once splitting logs at DBZ when I looked up and saw Mr. Shimano in a widow. I called up to him something like, "Hey, how about coming down here and doing some work with the rest of us?!" Shortly thereafter, he appeared on the scene, split one log, and disappeared back inside. No doubt it was a profound teaching, but those of us working might have preferred more sweat a less teaching.

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  42. Most of the people that go to DBZ have little to no maintenance skills. It's always been a problem. Shimano always looked down on those of us who did that kind of work and considered us disposable. When you're treated with disdain like that, you tend to move-on at first opportunity. The hands-on, skilled trades people who do make it to DBZ tend to be street-smart and soon see Shimano's true colors. They get frustrated trying to run a facility of that size on a shoe-string, a wing and a prayer (excessive prayers actually...)

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  43. "Is there some reason the monks/sangha of DBZ can't do the majority of the basic maintenance themselves?"

    You are speaking of Fujin and Jokei ...

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  44. "I called up to him [Mr. Shimano] something like, "Hey, how about coming down here and doing some work with the rest of us?!""

    Like he hadn't done enough for you, like he owed you even more ...

    Just as one small example apart from founding, fundraising, etc., do you have any concept of what it must be like to do interviews night after night, even year after year, with the same hapless, unprogressed, just-don't-get-it-and-never-will American students?

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  45. Oh, haha, "in a 'widow'"!

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  46. Hi anon 5:03 -- Just to be clear, I called to him as I might call to any passing friend -- a kind of challenge joke. There was nothing disrespectful about it. I respected his work, but I have my doubts about whether he respected mine.

    Anon 5:31 ... nice catch. My typos (subconscious and otherwise) gain strength as the years pass.

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  47. If it makes you feel better, I just read "founding, fundraising, etc." as "fondling, fundraising, etc."

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  48. "ZSS has ELIMINATED reference to it's "ethical" problems ..."

    Jeeze laweeze! Seems justa "tad bit" premature.

    This mess continues on, an endlessly unseemly and disturbing education in ...?

    The "nicest" thought that comes is how hard it can be to try and try and still not come up to it.

    Seems justa tad bit hollow however true it may be.

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  49. We probably find this all of this so baffling simply because we're "hapless, unprogressed, just-don't-get-it-and-never-will American students." Our role is simply to keep those donations rolling to ZSS and its affiliates.

    And try not to think too much.

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  50. ""ZSS has ELIMINATED reference to it's "ethical" problems ..."

    Jeeze laweeze!"

    This is just terrible! How will anyone ever know about it now?

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  51. "We probably find this all of this so baffling simply because we're "hapless, unprogressed, just-don't-get-it-and-never-will American students." Our role is simply to keep those donations rolling to ZSS and its affiliates.

    And try not to think too much."

    Or instead try to understand actual scientific studies, some cited here (Ken Wilber), about the majority of Americans who try to progress through meditation, and fail. Noble effort? Perhaps. But also possibly self-delusional, if you finally admit the truth of your experience.

    Don't do it for yourself. Do it for your sangha. At least then it's worth something.

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  52. You mean this, from "The Importance of Meditation"?
    http://www.wisdompage.com/meditation.html

    "Ken Wilber cites research indicating that meditation is the only proven way to move our psychological/spiritual development beyond the “sensitive self” stage to the “integrative” and “holistic” stages. He noted, “Less than 2 per­cent of the adult population scores at Jane Loevinger’s highest two stages of self development (autonomous and integrated),” and went on to say, “No practice (including psychotherapy, holotropic breathwork, or NLP) has been shown to substantially increase that percentage. With one exception: studies have shown that consistent meditation practice over a several-year period increases that percent­age from 2 percent to an astonishing 38 percent….”

    What, specifically, does this have to do with the Shimano scandal(s)?

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  53. Do you mean this (from "The Importance of Meditation")?
    http://www.wisdompage.com/meditation.html

    Quote:
    Ken Wilber cites research indicating that meditation is the only proven way to move our psychological/spiritual development beyond the “sensitive self” stage to the “integrative” and “holistic” stages. He noted, “Less than 2 per­cent of the adult population scores at Jane Loevinger’s highest two stages of self development (autonomous and integrated),” and went on to say, “No practice (including psychotherapy, holotropic breathwork, or NLP) has been shown to substantially increase that percentage. With one exception: studies have shown that consistent meditation practice over a several-year period increases that percent­age from 2 percent to an astonishing 38 percent….”

    What, specifically, does this have to do with the Shimano scandal(s)?

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  54. ""ZSS has ELIMINATED reference to it's "ethical" problems ..."

    Does this mean some of the board members who claimed to do something such as Chris Phalen(?) converted to the Shimano cult and maybe was given "sex" coupons at DBZ?

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  55. "Just as one small example apart from founding, fundraising, etc., do you have any concept of what it must be like to do interviews night after night, even year after year, with the same hapless, unprogressed, just-don't-get-it-and-never-will American students?"

    It brings a tear to the Penetrating Dharma Eye. Think of the tedium of repeating the same dull come-ons, meeting the same timid resistances, removing the same kinds of clothing, going through the same motions, again and again. Truly, he is dedicated.

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  56. Shimano archive added a Japanese translation of the New York times article on Shimano in August.

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20100821JP_NYT_Sex_Scandal.pdf

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  57. "Just as one small example apart from founding, fundraising, etc., do you have any concept of what it must be like to do interviews night after night, even year after year, with the same hapless, unprogressed, just-don't-get-it-and-never-will American students?"

    Hello, Shimano, is that you?

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  58. Perhaps "never will get it" American students yearn for the time these "got to much of it" Japanese teachers have gone home and, in that place, sink into hopelessly sex addled swill.

    Just another way of seeing it. Just as useful as well.

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  59. "... sink into hopelessly sex addled swill."

    Strong stuff. Like a dog does water after a walk in the rain, perhaps maladaptive cultural forms and those who insist on the propogation of such would better be shaken loose.

    Doing so will not cure "ethics" problems in this world. Same goes for "lineage" problems. Perhaps such problems that do arise would be seen with a more inclusively approachable ethic, however much some shit sticks.

    Work at being awake to all being and act with compassion. That's it and that's all of it that matters in living well.

    Seems to be so anyway.

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  60. "Think of the tedium of repeating the same dull come-ons, meeting the same timid resistances, removing the same kinds of clothing, going through the same motions, again and again. Truly, he [Shimano] is dedicated."

    Exactly. Pure sex machine. Never tried to do anything good on behalf of anyone ever. Black or white, all or nothing, no in-between. Behavior unquestionably not characteristic of mental illness (psychopathy, etc.). Commenters are mature, un-self-righteous, have clear and complete understanding of everything they comment on (they use right speech with the right attitude). So thankful for these bright, moral *men of zen.

    *(men only)

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  61. Jeez, who peed in your cornflakes? Take a deep breath and try to develop a sense of humor. Probably the sex cartoon is as accurate as the "founding, fundraising, etc." bathos. (Poor Eido! He worked so hard for the money he talked people out of!) If you want to defend him, speak up straight, instead of throwing fuzzy slime at his accusers. I presume you're being sarcastic in that last paragraph, though I am truly not sure what your point might be.

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  62. Copied from recent Tricycle post...

    "Oh dear,
    I've just learned about this, yet another violation of trust and ethics by, yet another so-called realized Buddhist teacher. I remember when I first learned that Osel Tensin whose photograph much to my dismay still hangs at Gampo Abbey, had sex with students (male and female) even after learning he was HIV positive. In Canada, others who have done this have been found guilty of manslaughter. I've met a woman whose son contracted HIV from Tensin and who died from AIDS in the mid nineties. Tensin was a close student of Trungpa.

    But it was in the late eighties when we arrived at the Dharma Rain Zen Centre in Portland, Oregon for weekly practice and found press releases about the Tensin travesty sitting on top of zafus arranged in a council-type circle. We were so shocked and wounded by Tensil's (and Trungpa's) action/inaction. Much of our talk concerned either painful personal responses or a fear that the news from Boulder would cast a shadow on all Buddhist Centres in North America. When a teacher violates and wounds one student, he or she, (Are there any women who have done this kind of harm?) violates us all. We have also gone through this with Baker, Maezumi, Katagiri and I don't know who else, and each time it has harmed the whole sangha - not just the individuals who are direct victims. These teachers have harmed Buddhism in America and created schisms in their sanghas.

    I've read all the comments here and, as an outsider, agree with those who say that Eido Shamani's letter is sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm, or even to loosen the grip that his actions must hold on the minds of his direct victims. The exchange of opinions on this blog sight (I'm so glad Aiken Roshi commented before he died.) shows me that finally, the suffering has gone beyond the secret stage and has begun to fester as an open wound. It sounds like the sickness in the ZSS was more like a hidden infection that devasted core health before it poured it's infectious puss into the world. But, I can see that the fighting is on, blaming is plentiful. I just hope that in the in-fighting, no one forgets that these sexual abuse of power incidents harm even me, a lay teacher in a small British Columbia community. I worry that this level of anyalsis will be lost in the fray.

    Kuya Minogue
    Creston Zen Centre"

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  63. "I've read all the comments here and, as an outsider, agree with those who say that Eido Shamani's letter is sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm, or even to loosen the grip that his actions must hold on the minds of his direct victims."
    *******************

    FWIW, I have emailed Kuya Minogue asking if the word "not" had gotten lost from the phrase, "is sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm..." As it stands, the wording doesn't seem to fit ... or didn't to me.

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  64. That "apology" was an insult to every person ever hurt by Eido Shimano. It was completely disingenuous and was written by Roko, not Shimano. The fact that it was sent out as a text email was doubly insulting. Two paragraphs and everything is supposed to be OK?

    These people are dreaming... lost in the "unconditional realm" no doubt. Shimano has done nothing to indicate his sincere "remorse" other than that disgusting email.

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  65. As to form, if the apology had been handwritten by Mr. Shimano, then transcribed and published, critics would claim that surely there must be discrepancies between the three written/transcribed/published versions. Someone would no doubt claim the written version was a forgery. etc., etc.

    I doubt it was composed for Mr. Shimano by Ms. Chayat. But if she helped, it was a good thing, because the man needs all the help he can get, and that is not meant just in terms of overcoming the cultural barrier of his loss of face.

    As to the content, there are two major problems: first, it does not admit what Mr. Shimano did to cause others to suffer, it only vaguely refers to his 'faults' and his ‘words and deeds’, and secondly there is no vow to try to not do the same actions again. So the published apology, whether sincere or not, is, in fact, inadequate.

    On the other hand, there is no expression of sorrow or remorse, written, spoken, shouted, sung, or keyboarded, that Mr. Shimano could ever make that would not automatically be ripped by his dedicated critics.

    Spike

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  66. "I've read all the comments here and, as an outsider, agree with those who say that Eido Shamani's letter is sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm, or even to loosen the grip that his actions must hold on the minds of his direct victims."
    *******************

    FWIW, I have emailed Kuya Minogue asking if the word "not" had gotten lost from the phrase, "is sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm..." As it stands, the wording doesn't seem to fit ... or didn't to me.

    The Tricycle entry has been amended to read "is not sufficiently sincere to undo ANY harm...."

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  67. Does anyone have any information on the attendance at Rohatsu and whether or not there will be recordings available of these last teishos as Abbot by Eido?

    Perhaps another form of remorse it to be expressed as the sun sets on his last active days as Abbot.

    I don't see how he could avoid mentioning at this last sesshin how his behavior directly caused as much suffering as seems apparent.

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  68. I betcha you may get to see him do that, and I would be surprised if he doesn't take the opportunity to preach a long hagiographic sermon on just how great he has been for so long, and how tragic it is that he must apparently desist now.

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  69. Is sesshin the right venue to address his past behavior? Enough bad stuff happened in the past during sesshins ... Should a teisho be 'about him' in this regard? The after-sesshin Sunday breakfast, as people prepare to depart, might be more fitting.

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  70. Oh, I dunno, Spike. I think if he turned himself to the Manhattan DA, or a Federal Prosecutor, for rape, fraud, tax evasion, and appropriating funds, that you would see a genuine roar of appreciation and gratitude from his detractors.

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  71. Yes, let's hope all of the above is proven true.

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  72. "On the other hand, there is no expression of sorrow or remorse, written, spoken, shouted, sung, or keyboarded, that Mr. Shimano could ever make that would not automatically be ripped by his dedicated critics."

    Dear friend,

    This is not the first time I have read such an insinuation that Mr. Shimano's critics are being "too aggressive", "one-sided", etc., and this position continues to baffle me. Perhaps if Shimano ever does finally make a sincere and comprehensive apology, or if the ZSS one day decides to finally address the misconduct of its abbot in a proper manner, we might be able to test your hypothesis. In the meantime, however, we have to deal with the unfortunate reality.

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  73. "... his detractors."

    Dreamers all, and fools, holding dreams like dumbass schemes, none of which happened.

    No roar fills the air. Silence is genuine.

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  74. What I find comical is that some of you actually believe he will leave after Rohatsu. He isn't leaving. He will remain at DBZ. Nothing has changed and the shell game continues.

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  75. Anybody know how you hold a dream like a dumbass scheme? Or what it is for a scheme to have happened?

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  76. "Anybody know how you hold a dream like a dumbass scheme?"

    Don't know - maybe must be a dumbass to understand.

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  77. Genkaku,

    Thanks for emailing Kuya for the correction. I saw the left out word after posting it here. Was also going to email her. Interesting that the overall message was so compelling that I missed it initially.

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  78. "I saw the left out word after posting it here."

    Intesting line. Another late night post. Is dumbassness contagious?

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  79. Yes, very "intesting" line. I think dumbassness is not only contagious, but pandemic! I, for one, am heading to the Emergency Room.

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  80. "Anybody know how you hold a dream like a dumbass scheme?"

    It's simple. You just continue along posting on this blog waiting while change happens.

    For balance, you whine concerning perception of change.

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  81. O.K.! I can do that! That sounds excellent!

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  82. Phooey. Don't perceive any change yet.

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  83. Final Reminder: Wednesday morning is the 8th of December, and the sun will rise in Manhattan (theoretically) at 7:07 A.M. Those who wish to be on the sidewalk at the Zen Studies Society at 223 East 67th Street will be welcome.

    EIDO TAI SHIMANO
    UNFAIR
    TO ALL SENTIENT BEINGS

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  84. "Yes, very "intesting" line. I think dumbassness is not only contagious, but pandemic!"

    :))

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  85. "What I find comical is that some of you actually believe he will leave after Rohatsu. He isn't leaving. He will remain at DBZ."

    You are right. Ms. Chayat has asked for his assistance for six months of on-the-job training.

    What happens after that? One way or another, he will be a shadow.

    Spike

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  86. Kegetsu,

    I want to say, "How do you like your coffee", but I don't know if I can make it to NY.
    Will try to find a way to call you.

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  87. "Those who wish to be on the sidewalk at the Zen Studies Society at 223 East 67th Street will be welcome."

    where is all the outrage now. finally, someone willing to take real action and not just a lot of venting and no one responds

    armchair warriors where are you now?

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  88. "armchair warriors where are you now?"

    or is it just babies in highchairs whining?

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  89. Just hand me the remote and tell me what time it will be on the news... Oh, and while you're up get me a beer.

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  90. All I can say is, there will be at least two people there. The rest of you can, as was suggested, go to hell.

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  91. Yup -- I am one of those who qualifies as a lily-livered hypocrite...all talk and no action. I say I would love to show up, but then cop out because I live 200 miles from New York, have family obligations, have a doctor's appointment on the day in question (an appointment I cannot afford to miss at my age), and am more tired than energetic these days.

    Place me in the "loser" column.

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  92. ... but I am grateful to those who do show up. Thank you.

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  93. "All I can say is, there will be at least two people there. The rest of you can, as was suggested, go to hell."

    Go because doing so is your way. IT is not the way of others and it is not the way of many.

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  94. What is the the point of a small demonstration with, perhaps, one person on East 67th Street? at 7:00am when Shimano and most of the gang will be in the Catskills?

    Or is it just some kind of running joke?

    If you are into doing some kind of small protest wouldn't it make more sense to devote several weeks to giving out flyers to the people going to the public meetings? The flyer could essentially be a clear and concise list of worst of the 5 decades of allegations against Shimano and his enablers with reference to the NY Times article and the shimanoarchive.com

    That's my 2 cents.

    Dress warmly.

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  95. "Ms. Chayat has asked for his assistance for six months of on-the-job training."

    Kiss Ass Vulgar Slang
    To act submissively or obsequiously in order to gain favor.

    (Example: Kissing ass has been a way of life for Ms. Chayat.)

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  96. "Kissing ass has been a way of life for Ms. Chayat."

    --Please say more about that. Give proofs of all the most egregious examples, and deflate any anticipated criticism of your interpretation, if you can.

    Thank you.

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  97. It's all well and good until people stop donating. Wonder what sort of "on the job training" covers that eventually?

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  98. 'All I can say is, there will be at least two people there. The rest of you can, as was suggested, go to hell."
    December 5, 2010 9:22 AM

    My man, you can use an attitude adjustment. Presumably your going to be out there due to your concern for others, no? Or is this just some form of self-aggrandizement--confronting the big bad teacher, you won't be intimidated!! You'll show em. Hai!
    Best of ruck.

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  99. ZSS Ethical Guidelines, FTI recommendations, etc. have moved from Home page to Contact Us page of their website.

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  100. "Please say more about that."

    We could go back further, but that'll be simply hearsay, so let's begin in the 1990's. And yes, I know that what I am saying will seem like a matter of interpretation; however, I have to say something to counteract the wishful thinking that things are going to improve with her at the helm.

    "We met in the spirit of love and gratitude for Eido Roshi, our directors, this Practice and our Sangha*
    (from the summary of the 1993 Women's Meeting)

    So the daughter has returned but it it to help the women of the ZSS sangha? Nope!

    What did she do since then? Nada!!

    She edited Maurine Stuart's book but does not even mention Maurine's true opinion of Shimano.

    Now, two decades later the Shimano situation has not fundamentally improved, but Chayat The Obsequious is now Eido handpicked successor. But now that she is in charge, the situation is in many respects much worse: the board requested and received the FTI's recommendations but didn't implement the important ones, personal promise were evidently made to other concerned Zen teachers of the AZTA that the leadership of ZSS can handle things , and to the local sangha evidently lead to believe the leadership can handle things, and the maha-sangha is still watching. So What does Ms. Chayat do as the new leader? Does she hit the ground running? She asks that papa-san give her six months of on-the-job training. You've got to be kidding!

    If you want sugary expressions of gratitude and you want to hear about the Eido's living in the unconditioned realm, she's your girl.

    Oh wait! Will she do an eventual Eido and turn against him after years of praise, like Eido did to Soen? Stay tuned.

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  101. " 'Kissing ass has been a way of life for Ms. Chayat.'

    --Please say more about that. Give proofs of all the most egregious examples, and deflate any anticipated criticism of your interpretation, if you can. "

    Even after decades of mistreatment of women and scores of survivors, board members and others resigning in protest, she still writes this totally gushy accolade to Eido Shimano on page 4-7 of "Never Met With":

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20021001_Never_Met_With.pdf

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  102. RE:

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20021001_Never_Met_With.pdf

    Others who wrote their happy birthday greetings:

    Jiro, Seigan, Denko, Zenrin, Coenjo, DaiIn, Banjo (sic), Saiun, Banko, Hosen, M. Schreiber, Sargyo, Daiden, Nikyu, Boun, Jikei, Myoshin, Koge, Renji, Jiho, Genju, Myochi, Genno.

    Read a bunch of them. None more or less 'gushy' then Roko's. She just seemed really grateful for the teaching.

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  103. Just a quick reassurance to any who wonder: Not a Joke. My bus ticket is purchased. The 19th Precinct Community Affairs Officer has been notified. Barring a heart attack or a terrorist hit on my bus, I'll be there. And anyone who is seriously concerned about my attitude or motivation is freely invited to come and make up their own minds about it.

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  104. Anon 4:19PM:

    "We met in the spirit of love and gratitude for Eido Roshi, our directors, this Practice and our Sangha*
    (from the summary of the 1993 Women's Meeting)

    --Operative word is 'we'. Includes others besides Mr. Shimano. If they sanctioned the statement, so be it.

    "What did she do since then? Nada!!"

    --How do you know? I doubt that this is true.

    "She edited Maurine Stuart's book but does not even mention Maurine's true opinion of Shimano."

    Correct, she edited it. It is supposed to be the talks and writing of Stuart, not Chayat. It came out in 1996. Tworkov's book where Stuart disses Shimano had been out since 1989.

    FTI recommendations (and comments):

    "Eido Shimano must end his tenure as Abbot as soon as possible. As long as he remains in this role or in any other official capacity, the integrity of ZSS is compromised."

    --Pending. Tenure as Abbot is over in just a few days. This was the number one goal and was listed at the top of the list. *Title of Founding Abbot is an honorary.

    "If there are students who wish to continue to study with Eido, they may do so on their own but not under the auspices of ZSS."

    --Not going to be done, I think, until current coterie of students ‘graduates’, no one shows up for NYZ dharma classes, or Mr. Shimano dies. *Important that no new students will study with Mr. Shimano. The only good thing about this is the benefit to the students of the DBZ environment. To me, having Mr. Shimano in the halls and rooms of the monastery is incompatible with reconciliation with harmed students. He needs to do a lot more work, all on his own, in this regard.

    "Eido Shimano should make a full public apology acknowledging his misconduct and his regret for harm done to ZSS."

    --Done, but lacks statement of harms committed, and vow to reform. He has apologized in public before, as quoted in Zen in America bio of Maurine Stuart, and also at least one other time to ZSS.

    "Conduct a formal financial audit for the organization. Issue a summary audit report available to the Sangha members."

    --In process. Progress report is due this month. This is so important, and potentially revealing. It could mean a lot towards the financial health of ZSS. ZSS might recover assets from Mr. Shimano.

    "Consult with your Zen colleagues who have gone through major restructuring to address misconduct issues, e.g. ZCLA, to help with by-laws revisions and restructuring."

    --Done, but what was accomplished I don’t know. I will try to find out after Rohatsu.

    "Read Marilyn R. Peterson's At Personal Risk: Boundary Violations in Professional-Client Relationships."

    --I will try to find out at the end of Rohatsu if anyone on the Board has read this book.

    From the ad hominems in your prior post, I'd say your opinions are not very objectively based. I would be surprised to hear that you ever studied with her or even spoke or exchanged email.

    I think you are probably 'hoping' that all those things are true, i.e., that she doesn't really need the help, that she condones sex abuse, that she is a 'cult daughter', and that she is amoral and selfish. Makes me wonder if your opinion is a projection on your part, given your evident very personal hatrted.

    Spike

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  105. "Read a bunch of them. None more or less 'gushy' then Roko's. She just seemed really grateful for the teaching."

    Well yes, they all seemed to be engratiating themselves profusely.But none of them are holding themselves out as worthy to become Abbot. And your question was about Roko. With your reasoning, then, and with what SHE knew about him, her remarks strike me like...

    "Oh, I'm just so grateful for your teaching that I'm willing to overlook the mistreatment of women." What kind of teaching was that, anyway?

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  106. The context of this 70th birthday card was in the midst of a period of ~14 years during which there was no misbehavior by the abbot.

    Mr. Shimano apologized in public, including in a teisho, for prior behavior. I doubt that the 1993 women's meeting was undiscussed between Shimano and others.

    Obviously there are questions that only Ms. Chayat knows the answer to. Tricycle or another print organization will hopefully do an interview, in the readiness of time, that will address the issues that everyone here likes to speculate about.

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  107. "The context of this 70th birthday card was in the midst of a period of ~14 years during which there was no misbehavior by the abbot."

    Hmmm...why does this sound like a remake of Genjo?

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  108. More precisely, why does the whole post (anon 10:25) sound like previous incorrect assumptions made by Genjo, and pitiful "apologies".

    And the womens meeting - do you mean the one that was moved to DBZ making it impossible for many women to attend? And is this the one during which Roko faithfully reported back to Shimano the content of the meetings?

    Ya know - the ZSS resistance to hearing truth must be record breaking among Buddhist communities.

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  109. "Hmmm...why does this sound like a remake of Genjo?"

    Genjo now is at DBZ Rohatsu.

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  110. "And is this the one women's meeting] during which Roko faithfully reported back to Shimano the content of the meetings?"

    What was the point of keeping minutes? Why wouldn't Ms. Chayat and the other attendees want Mr. Shimano to hear the truth of their experiences, observations and feelings, with the point being to make him change his behavior accordingly?

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  111. "The context of this 70th birthday card was in the midst of a period of ~14 years during which there was no misbehavior by the abbot."

    Hmmm...why does this sound like a remake of Genjo?

    ******************

    Not correct? How could anyone either not know or not figure this out?

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  112. What’s troubling is how Roko and Genjo have used the already confidential forum of the AZTA Listserve to further their enabling agenda thus leaving people with doubts about the Shimano Problem in an untenable position – Break their original list-serve confidentiality agreement and make Roko and Genjo’s appeals to refrain from signing the petition “while they do their work” – Or speak truth to power and expose the subtle coercion.

    At this point it has become pretty obvious that the Board and loyal Shimano supporters’ “work” has lead them down the familiar path of enablement we have seen so many times before. Eido Shimano is gong to be running DBZ in a “shadow capacity” for a long time. The net result of the loyal Dharma heirs pleas to refrain from signing the Shimano Resignation Petition was to place their AZTA Colleagues in a position where they would have to break a pre-existing confidentiality agreement in order to inform the Sangha what Shimano’s enablers actually were actively lobbying for. They bought time… and amnesia.

    The emails and letters that Genjo and Roko circulated to the AZTZ list members are historic documents, they chronicle the movement of events from the most recent sexual abuse episode, to “resignation,” to “retirement in 2012” to “retirement in 2011,” to retirement as “Founding Abbot” on December 8th, 2010, his “final Teisho as Abbot”. An up-coming event in January – and – Now we learn about “six months on the job training…”)

    Doesn’t someone in the AZTA feel slightly uncomfortable over these machinations, the attention-span window and the coercive ethical bind of the AZTA list-serve in this case? Am I the only person to feel as though I have been subtly manipulated? I feel like I am obligated to hide the truth rather than express it a transparent forthright manner.

    Eido Shimano has not “Stepped Down” he’s “Slid Sideways” – his title is now “Founding Abbot” By the looks of it, Mr. Shimano is going to be in control of the Zen Studies Society for a long time, running it from the shadows trough his most three loyal “true believers” “a.k.a. The Three Stooges.” And the AZTA list-serve people will be faced with their “confidentiality dilemma.” Noodling out the right course of action. We feel confident that as the reality of how Mr. Shimano has been “handled” people will become so disgusted to discard their now compromised TOS rules in favor of historical transparency. Do the right thing – reveal the truth. The Shimano archive is always looking for material, documents, letters, photographs and particularly vintage ZSS Newsletters. Here is a list of our current library, if you are able to donate to this resource scanned copies will be available for all to see on line.

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  113. Part I


    What’s troubling is how Roko and Genjo have used the already confidential forum of the AZTA Listserve to further their enabling agenda thus leaving people with doubts about the Shimano Problem in an untenable position – Break their original list-serve confidentiality agreement and make Roko and Genjo’s appeals to refrain from signing the petition “while they do their work” – Or speak truth to power and expose the subtle coercion.

    At this point it has become pretty obvious that the Board and loyal Shimano supporters’ “work” has lead them down the familiar path of enablement we have seen so many times before. Eido Shimano is gong to be running DBZ in a “shadow capacity” for a long time. The net result of the loyal Dharma heirs pleas to refrain from signing the Shimano Resignation Petition was to place their AZTA Colleagues in a position where they would have to break a pre-existing confidentiality agreement in order to inform the Sangha what Shimano’s enablers actually were actively lobbying for. They bought time… and amnesia.

    The emails and letters that Genjo and Roko circulated to the AZTZ list members are historic documents, they chronicle the movement of events from the most recent sexual abuse episode, to “resignation,” to “retirement in 2012” to “retirement in 2011,” to retirement as “Founding Abbot” on December 8th, 2010, his “final Teisho as Abbot”. An up-coming event in January – and – Now we learn about “six months on the job training…”)

    Doesn’t someone in the AZTA feel slightly uncomfortable over these machinations, the attention-span window and the coercive ethical bind of the AZTA list-serve in this case? Am I the only person to feel as though I have been subtly manipulated? I feel like I am obligated to hide the truth rather than express it a transparent forthright manner.

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  114. PART II
    Eido Shimano has not “Stepped Down” he’s “Slid Sideways” – his title is now “Founding Abbot” By the looks of it, Mr. Shimano is going to be in control of the Zen Studies Society for a long time, running it from the shadows trough his most three loyal “true believers” “a.k.a. The Three Stooges.” And the AZTA list-serve people will be faced with their “confidentiality dilemma.” Noodling out the right course of action. We feel confident that as the reality of how Mr. Shimano has been “handled” people will become so disgusted to discard their now compromised TOS rules in favor of historical transparency. Do the right thing – reveal the truth. The Shimano archive is always looking for material, documents, letters, photographs and particularly vintage ZSS Newsletters. Here is a list of our current library, if you are able to donate to this resource scanned copies will be available for all to see on line.

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20101206_Appeal_ZSS_Newsletters.pdf

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  115. For those of you who are inclined to take the proactive step of writing to Ryutaku-Ji concerning Shimano's official Dharma heir status, Kobutsu Malone has an useful template up here:

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20101206_Malone_Goto.pdf

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  116. To REDdirt: Go because doing so is your way. IT is not the way of others and it is not the way of many."
    Where I come from, that is exactly what "you can all go to hell" means. I would have thought with a name like Red Dirt, that you would have understood that.

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  117. "Now we learn about “six months on the job training…”"

    Now YOU learn about “six months on the job training".

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  118. "For those of you who are inclined to take the proactive step of writing to Ryutaku-Ji concerning Shimano's official Dharma heir status, Kobutsu Malone has an useful template up here:

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20101206_Malone_Goto.pdf"

    !

    Mr. Malone asks if the document, which confirms inka, confirms inka!?

    Then, (with hope still alive), the third question (of two) is if this inka was disavowed!

    Classic 'hater' stuff!

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  119. They seem like reasonable question to me. The "hater: reference comes into play because the questions might reveal answers that may not "agree" with the "supporter's" position. "Classic ignorance" at work!

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  120. Reasonable but stupid. The answer to the question 'does the document certifying inka actually certify inka?' is self-evident.

    Who cares if Shimano received inka or not? The important question of any zen teacher is: can that person teach well and help, not hurt, students.

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  121. That assuming the document really does certify anything.... it may be meaningless, in which case it certifies nothing. Shimano has been known to lie... in the past.

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  122. Just want to put in a plug for reconciliation, especially for those who go to the demonstration. I'm planning on going, but I am not demonstrating against Dai Bosatsu, or ZSS, even really against Eido Roshi, though I definitely think he should go, and go for real. He has talked enough in the last ten years about karmic consequences that he should be able to face his own. But even if he effectively owns the place right now, it is not his. It belongs as much to Soen, to Nyogen, to Daisetz, and to Soyen. Let us not forget that some true giants in the history of American Zen founded the Society, and that we all owe them gratitude and effort to continue their legacy.
    Namu Dai Bosa, Namu Dai Bosa, Namu Dai Bosa.

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  123. "Classic 'hater' stuff!"

    New Buddhist Truth: Everything is empty and impermanent EXCEPT inka.
    Sorry, bubbala; you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    No, questioning a teacher's inka IS legitimate questioning.

    BTW -- Your writing makes YOU sound like you are a proud enabler, so if you think you are not, think again.

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  124. "BTW -- Your writing makes YOU sound like you are a proud enabler, so if you think you are not, think again."

    I am a member of the ZSS Sangha. I support the ZSS sangha. Period. There's no enabling people like Jiro($$$), Kobutsu, Shimano, etc., all of whom I have known personally for over 20 years, because they are too arrogant and prideful to need it.

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  125. "To REDdirt: Where I come from, that is exactly what 'you can all go to hell' means. I would have thought with a name like Red Dirt, that you would have understood that."


    If I misunderstand what "you can all go to hell" means where you come from, I apologize.

    Where I came from it still means fuck off and is a condemnation.

    Now, I am learning to some profit, is more of a "reconcilatory" place. I choose this or I choose that. What comes of this is mine.

    REDdirt is a label with a hopefully consistent voice.

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  126. P.S. Your commitment and your evident courage in going on with this demonstration is laudable. It does not matter how many show up for this moment than it does how many have signed the petition.

    Its another good effort and I suspect it will be more than two or three like minded hardly souls. who stand bodily with you.

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  127. To Red Dirt: As one Good Old Boy to another, I appreciate that.

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  128. "Hmmm...why does this sound like a remake of Genjo?"

    I'm flattered.

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  129. Inka. Something like a college level teaching certificate. It gives useful assurance that the recipient has been able to show understanding of a historical base line and current trends.

    Is it anything beyond this?

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  130. ""BTW -- Your writing makes YOU sound like you are a proud enabler, so if you think you are not, think again."

    "I am a member of the ZSS Sangha. I support the ZSS sangha. Period.

    Perhaps this is what yo think you are doing, but is it really?

    "There's no enabling people like Jiro($$$), Kobutsu, Shimano, etc., all of whom I have known personally for over 20 years, because they are too arrogant and prideful to need it."

    You may think there is no enabling of these "leaders" but simply being a member of the organization they lead or supporting their work enables them. This is just a simple fact. Of course there have been others over the years who may have been for more enabling, I can't say specifically if you have been a major enabler. However, the way things seem to be headed even with professed loyalists as you proclaim, it would probably be much better for ZSS to close down and let the entire current sangha detach itself from the current leadership.

    I find it funny how you and other have made Jiro a point person for money grubbing behavior. Personally, from the stories I have heard, I don't think he got much in return for what he did; just as I would not have begrudged Shimano of reasonable compensation if he had been not been acting inappropriately for quite some time. I don't know Jiro to address the issue of arrogance.

    As for Kobutsu, when someone decides to stand against power then there are those who are going to condemn that person, just as others will be glad that someone stuck his her neck out to stand up to power. The criticism often takes the form of the issues that most disturb the critic and may have little to do with the person criticized. So, as for your opinion about Kobutsu's arrogance i. e. overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors, I just don't see it. I do see enormous tenacity regarding the Shimano Problem as expressed through the ShimanoArchive.

    On the other hand, the only thing Shimano specifically addressed in the letter of September 7th that the ZSS board attributed to him is arrogance. Personally, I think if one examines Shimano's behavior I think it is indicative of far more serious issues than pride, clearly that approaching some kind of social pathology, as well as some traits that had they be cultivated would have held him in good stead.

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  131. "Who cares if Shimano received inka or not? The important question of any zen teacher is: can that person teach well and help, not hurt, students."

    Some of us do care whether a person who hold themselves out as being a Zen teacher has Inka Shomei a certificate of dharma transmission which can be taken as recognition of realization and a teacher's determination that a student has leadership ability as well as the ability to teach.


    That isn't to say that we are not going to run into problems. And, yes, we have seen serious problem with many certified teachers anyway.

    But doing serious practice with an uncertified teacher because, what, you like the person, or you find him / her charismatic?
    Good luck with that.

    “What do you think, Subhuti? Is it
    possible to grasp the Tathagata by
    means of bodily signs?”

    “No, World-Honored One. When the
    Tathagata speaks of bodily signs,
    there are no signs being talked
    about.”

    The Buddha said to Subhuti: “In a
    place where there is something that
    can be distinguished by signs, in
    that place there is deception. If
    you can see the signless nature of
    signs, then you can see the
    Tathagata.”

    - Chapter 5 The Diamond Sutra

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  132. "No, questioning a teacher's inka IS legitimate questioning."

    Kobutsu is like 'the boy who poked the hornet's nest' in this inquiry.

    If Mr. Shimano's credentials are impeached, then every ZSS Sangha member who took a layman's or monk's vow from him, or received inka from him, is automatically bastardized. IF inka matters.

    His inquiry is suicidal at worst, and Oedipally-complexed at the least.

    Just leave this s**t alone.

    Spike

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  133. So the credentials are poxed if ES is "impeached"? And we should therefore do what? Resist empeachment at all costs? I don't think his priestly functions would be invalid, so the vows should all stand. But what on earth is so sacred about this stupid piece of scribbled rice paper? In Japan, it is indeed next to a sacred contract, avowing lineage (allegiance and caste), power distributions, and many other subtleties which we can hardly even describe. Here, it's a piece of rice paper.

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  134. Can this blog add "Like" buttons? :)

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  135. Spike,

    I disagree.
    This is why.

    If the Inka was revoked, Shimano and ZSS cannot claim "authentic Rinzai Zen", which appears on their website.
    At this point, those who came for the authenticity drop.

    There are other people like yourself, who claims it is just a piece of paper. This is fine and actually in the 80's, ZSS publicly declared that ZSS has no relationship with any other Buddhism organizations and that Shimano is the founder of the "new" group.

    However, if you take this path, the organization and all its activities, including the bows you mentioned, have to be viewed solely from Shimano and ZSS, no Rinzai history or whatever.

    What do you see then?
    Series of sexaul and mental abuse by Shimano and his monks, betrayal to the Carlsons and many victims with their broken lives and families. Your vows are judged with this background of the teacher who gave them to you.

    You can still claim that Zen is different. That is fine. But the action of your teacher, especially the founder of a religion, determines the direction of the students. As far as I know, most of, if not all, founders of religions attracted people from their charm.

    You can still claim Zen is different but what do you mean by Zen? That will be your new Zen that allows sexual abuses and definitely different from what Zen is generally understood.

    You have to know that "Zen" is written in Kanji or Chinese character but pronounced in Japanese way. Chinese has a different way of pronouncing it.
    So maybe you want to call yours as "Zenn" or something. But if inka is not there, it is definitely not "Zen."

    Inka is a central issue, since that is directly addresses the core of ZSS.

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  136. In Japan, Inka is given grudgingly. It is not only an institutional device for clarifying lines of succession, but it is also a tangible confirmation that a spiritual transmission has been validate (Colcutt, 1988).

    Mr. Shimano made clear his independence from all other zen institutions long ago. That is why inka shouldn't matter: he respects his long lineage but doesn't emphasize his own specific succession. His spiritual transmission has been validated, and he has literally moved on.

    The recent ZSS statement affirms its stance on its heritage:

    "We want to acknowledge our Dharma legacy, from Hakuin Zenji to Gempo Roshi, Soen Roshi, and Eido Roshi, as well as through such pioneers of Zen in America as Soyen Shaku Roshi, Nyogen Senzaki, and Dr. D.T. Suzuki."

    This, I think, is what ZSS means, in its own words, by 'authentic'. Its okay to have a less broad opinion of what 'authentic' means, just note ZSS's.

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  137. Hi Spike,

    "If Mr. Shimano's credentials are impeached, then every ZSS Sangha member who took a layman's or monk's vow from him, or received inka from him, is automatically bastardized."


    If vows are "taken from" a person, perhaps this is so.

    If vows are/were offered to that which words cannot express, I think there is no worry.

    A cold wind in winter. A warm wind in spring.

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  138. rally at Zen Studies Society
    .
    As noted elsewhere on this blog, "Wednesday morning is the 8th of December, and the sun will rise in Manhattan (theoretically) at 7:07 A.M. Those who wish to be on the sidewalk at the Zen Studies Society at 223 East 67th Street will be welcome." The rally hopes to draw attention to the sexual and financial depredations of Eido Tai Shimano.

    Dec.8, by some reckonings, marks the day on which Gautama Buddha attained enlightenment. It will also mark the day on which Mr. Shimano will allegedly retire after 50 years of teaching in the U.S.A.

    During that time, Mr. Shimano received much membership help in constructing and maintaining Sho Bo Ji, a New York City Zen temple, and Dai Bosatsu Zendo in upstate New York. During those same 50 years, he was also responsible for sowing confusion and sadness and pain within the same sanghas that created the zendos Mr. Shimano led as abbot.

    His sexual manipulations of students were brazen enough so that even The New York Times took a somewhat timid interest. They also led, largely through the efforts of Robert Aitken Roshi and the Rev. Kobutsu Malone, to the creation of the Shimano Archive, an extensive collection of documents detailing painful circumstances to which Mr. Shimano has never seen fit to respond directly and honestly.

    Wednesday's rally aims to underscore the desire to redress the unethical wrongs of 50 years and to remove (as suggested by the Faith Trust Institute***) any connection between Mr. Shimano and the two Zen centers he has led. The suffering Mr. Shimano sowed may never be repaired, but those rallying hope to emphasize the fact that there is no need to prolong or repeat them.

    PS. This entry is an announcement with what I hope is relatively fair background. It is not an invitation to open yet another Eido Tai Shimano laundry list ... a thread which already exists here.

    *** Recommendations were made by the Faith Trust Institute to Zen Studies Society in a Sept. 2, 2010, confidential memo that was later read at a sangha meeting. FTI is "a national, multifaith, multicultural training and education organization with global reach working to end sexual and domestic violence." FTI is an independent organization that is not connected to Zen Studies Society. The recommendations were:



    Eido Shimano must end his tenure as Abbot as soon as possible. As long as he remains in this role or in any other official capacity, the integrity of ZSS is compromised.
    · If there are students who wish to continue to study with Eido, they may do so on their own but not under the auspices of ZSS.
    · Eido Shimano should make a full public apology acknowledging his misconduct and his regret for harm done to ZSS.
    · Conduct a formal financial audit for the organization. Issue a summary audit report available to the Sangha members.
    · Consult with your Zen colleagues who have gone through major restructuring to address misconduct issues, e.g. ZCLA, to help with by-laws revisions and restructuring.
    · Read Marilyn R. Peterson’s At Personal Risk: Boundary Violations in Professional-Client Relationships.

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  139. rally at Zen Studies Society
    .
    As noted elsewhere on this blog, "Wednesday morning is the 8th of December, and the sun will rise in Manhattan (theoretically) at 7:07 A.M. Those who wish to be on the sidewalk at the Zen Studies Society at 223 East 67th Street will be welcome." The rally hopes to draw attention to the sexual and financial depredations of Eido Tai Shimano.

    Dec.8, by some reckonings, marks the day on which Gautama Buddha attained enlightenment. It will also mark the day on which Mr. Shimano will allegedly retire after 50 years of teaching in the U.S.A.

    During that time, Mr. Shimano received much membership help in constructing and maintaining Sho Bo Ji, a New York City Zen temple, and Dai Bosatsu Zendo in upstate New York. During those same 50 years, he was also responsible for sowing confusion and sadness and pain within the same sanghas that created the zendos Mr. Shimano led as abbot.

    His sexual manipulations of students were brazen enough so that even The New York Times took a somewhat timid interest. They also led, largely through the efforts of Robert Aitken Roshi and the Rev. Kobutsu Malone, to the creation of the Shimano Archive, an extensive collection of documents detailing painful circumstances to which Mr. Shimano has never seen fit to respond directly and honestly.

    Wednesday's rally aims to underscore the desire to redress the unethical wrongs of 50 years and to remove (as suggested by the Faith Trust Institute***) any connection between Mr. Shimano and the two Zen centers he has led. The suffering Mr. Shimano sowed may never be repaired, but those rallying hope to emphasize the fact that there is no need to prolong or repeat them.

    PS. This entry is an announcement with what I hope is relatively fair background. It is not an invitation to open yet another Eido Tai Shimano laundry list ... a thread which already exists here.

    *** Recommendations were made by the Faith Trust Institute to Zen Studies Society in a Sept. 2, 2010, confidential memo that was later read at a sangha meeting. FTI is "a national, multifaith, multicultural training and education organization with global reach working to end sexual and domestic violence." FTI is an independent organization that is not connected to Zen Studies Society. The recommendations were:



    Eido Shimano must end his tenure as Abbot as soon as possible. As long as he remains in this role or in any other official capacity, the integrity of ZSS is compromised.
    · If there are students who wish to continue to study with Eido, they may do so on their own but not under the auspices of ZSS.
    · Eido Shimano should make a full public apology acknowledging his misconduct and his regret for harm done to ZSS.
    · Conduct a formal financial audit for the organization. Issue a summary audit report available to the Sangha members.
    · Consult with your Zen colleagues who have gone through major restructuring to address misconduct issues, e.g. ZCLA, to help with by-laws revisions and restructuring.
    · Read Marilyn R. Peterson’s At Personal Risk: Boundary Violations in Professional-Client Relationships.

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  140. If people cannot go to the rally in New York on the 8th, possibly they could choose that day to sign the petition requesting his departure. It would be another way to show solidarity.

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  141. How many are you expecting for this rally? If you don't muster a decent turnout, will you be doing more harm than good? Small response will indicate apathy or resistance to your purpose.

    Look at 'The Petition'. In all these months, only 139 signers. Not including Jiro, the Burning House Zendo and Kashin Zendo people, but including Tom Davenport (anon former ZSS), there are only 14 ZSS people ...

    Not only in terms of efficacy, but as a rallying tool, the petition is a big flop.

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  142. 100 people are good enough ... do not forget
    to invite the media.

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  143. Only eight people signed the original petition in 1995... it became a historic document. So, enabler - this one's "a flop" because 126 more people signed against the perpetrator that the first time? What is it about the sleaze-ball nature about this guy you just don't get?

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  144. Spike's Zen is called Zex.

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  145. Aiho will resign/retire starting december 11.
    I doubt it ... all indication show that she
    will remain in charge of, if not interfere with,
    daily operation of Shobo-ji. What can we expect
    from an old lady without family and the only
    family and activites she knows is Shobo-ji?
    And regarding Eido-san ... a new nun was recently
    noviciated. So?

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  146. Are you going to rally at Shobo-ji on december
    8 in the morning? You must be kidding ... or
    you are not familiar with ZSS schedule. No one
    is there. Believe me ... if you want to picket
    look at shobo-ji schedule. December 11 ... look
    at December 11.

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  147. Yes December 11, Shimano, his wife, boards, senior students ... will be there. Bring
    media ... I agree.

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  148. Let's get a head count estimate for the rally.

    Leave your name or pseudonym here. State the day you can make it, 8th or 11th.

    This could be historic.

    Benedict; 12/8

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  149. " So, enabler - this one's "a flop" because 126 more people signed against the perpetrator that the first time?"

    Tell us what effect you think this petition has had on the board, to whom it was directed. Give evidence to support.

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  150. "Only eight people signed the original petition in 1995... it became a historic document."

    Just like these blog posts are historic.

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  151. I'll be meeting Kegetsu in front of Shobo-ji tommorow morning at sunrise. There are criticisms/concerns about this "rally". Since I’m part of non-violent actions for environmental justice, I agree that this is not an organized, strategic action that has been planned in advance to include media, letters, important contacts, or even with ZSS members being present.

    Nevertheless, there are reasons for going. One is to meet and support Kegetsu, who cares enough to do something - well planned or not. I don’t see this as a failure any more than I see the innumerable caring and sometimes very wise comments, essays, and articles posted on many blogs as failures. Or, a petition, a letter from prominent teachers, and a historic archive. It will have dignity, one person or 1,000. Even with only one or two, it will be more than the number of people who would be there to celebrate 50 years of exploiting women sexually and leaving a community with financial stress and divisions among sangha.

    Another reason for going is that for years I've sat with the sunrise, and to stand in front of Shobo-Ji on the day and time that commemorates the enlightenment of the Buddha is an act of personal significance and freedom. I wish it for all who remain so emmeshed in difficult loyalties.

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  152. Posted elsewhere, but....

    At 5:30 a.m., out beyond the street lamp and its bluish haze and between the wires that hung from the lamp pole, the morning star was literally blazing this morning. Like some immodest prop in a high school play, the star seemed somehow too fat, too bright, too loud, too much. And yet there it was, clear as a bell.

    Nearby, but lower in the sky, a smattering of clouds picked up the pink and white of nearby city illumination. I imagine if I had stood in the cold of the porch, the clouds might have blocked out or blurred the star, but for a few moments of looking, they were still and the star was unapologetic. "Lookit me!" it offered without caring if anyone looked or not. It was like walking on some sidewalk to meet a friend for coffee and seeing that friend from a distance ... the two of you looking and recognizing and filling up with friendship and ... smiling.

    Some Buddhist schools celebrate the anniversary of Gautama's realization today. The school I grew up in does that. The tale has it that Gautama, after much effort that proved unavailing, sat down under a tree one night and vowed not to rise until he actualized the enlightenment he sought. And with the rising of the morning star, he did just that and neither star nor man had cause for regret.

    Today is the last day of Rohatsu sesshin, an intense eight-day Zen retreat that comes once a year. Participants rise from their seats after so much effort and return home, having expressed their determination and yet strangely unable to say what, precisely, has just happened. It is worth a smile, perhaps.

    In New York City, this morning, a small rally was scheduled outside of the Zen temple Sho Bo Ji. The rally was organized as a means of pointing out the sexual and financial depredations of Eido Tai Shimano, a man who has acted as a Zen teacher for 50 years. He wounded many and made no open apology. He too has been unrepentant and yet, if I had to guess, he failed to greet his true friends with a smile. All that effort beneath the tree and no smile to show for it. It's a profound pity that none of us needs to duplicate.

    A bright, saucy and unrepentant star.

    A good friend.

    A warm smile.

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  153. ... and a deep bow to those who braved the cold.

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  154. "Eido Tai Shimano, a man who has acted as a Zen teacher for 50 years. He wounded many and made no open apology. He too has been unrepentant ..."

    "no open apology ... unrepentant"

    This, of course, is a bald-faced lie.

    It almost makes one have sympathy for a character who deserves none.

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  155. Of course its a bald-faced lie... everyone who opposes Shimano is a liar from Robert Aitken, to Kobutsu Osho, to Jiro Oshso to all the "survivors" who have expressed their anguish to the best of their abilities... all no-good contemptible LIARS. Only the "Shimano true-believers" represent the truth, the rest of these people are scum....

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  156. "It almost makes one have sympathy for a character who deserves none."

    "Only the "Shimano true-believers" represent the truth ..."

    First statement is self-evidently not from a Shimano true believer.

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  157. " Only the "Shimano true-believers" represent the truth, the rest of these people are scum.... "

    Neither group is scum. Nor is Shimano.

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  158. Yeah, well Shimano wasn't fucking YOUR wife....

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  159. YOU would better speak to this YOUR wife problem.

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  160. How was the relly going?

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  161. ""no open apology ... unrepentant""

    "This, of course, is a bald-faced lie."

    No, this is NOT a bald-faced lie. Examine everyone one of Shimano's "apologies" over the years and you will find a timid little statement that never actually ever admit to doing anything really wrong.

    Look at one of (or, perhaps, the only recent) "apology."

    "I would like to acknowledge the pain and unnecessary suffering you went through in your hearts due to my faults. I have a profound feeling of remorse for my actions."

    What does he admit to and apologize for?
    Arrogance and insensitivity, but not the real issues.
    "Over time, I took your kindness for granted and arrogance grew in my heart. As a result, my sensitivity to feel the pain of others decreased. Now, as I reflect on the past, I realize how many people's feelings and trust in me were hurt by my words and deeds. Please accept my heartfelt apology."

    Did he apologize for his most grievous transgression of the precepts in the 1960's? No! What about the 1970's No!! I don't think he bothered to be up front about the incident(s) up through the 90's that finally lead to the letter from the senior American Zen teachers of the time.


    There is one here on this blog who has just admitted that Shimano was intimate with his wife and you say, "YOU would better speak to this YOUR wife problem." Now, friend, that is really insensitivity.

    To call Shimano's vague, tepid acknowledgements real apologies is not at all helpful to anyone.

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  162. Picture:

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/Site Art/20101208_NYZ.jpg

    Flier:

    http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20101208_Rally_NYZ.pdf

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  163. Couldn't hook up with http://www.shimanoarchive.com/Site Art/20101208_NYZ.jpg

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  164. I can write the same apolgy, here it is

    "I would like to acknowledge the pain and unnecessary suffering of all sentient beings
    due to my faults. I have a profound feeling of remorse for my actions."

    "Over time, because of you (all beings in six
    realms) arrogance grew in my heart. As a result, my sensitivity to feel the pain of others decreased. Now, as I reflect on the past, I realize how many beings were hurt by my words and deeds. Please accept my heartfelt apology,
    for what I did in the past and if I repeat and
    repeat again in the future. What a country!"

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  165. I want answers NOW.... not only was he involved with my wife, but when I left my 16 year old son in his care for training during his HS Summer vacation Shimano promised me he would "take good care of my son".... His "good care" involved my 16 year old child being given alcohol by an ordained Shimano monk who was HIV+ and proceeded to rape my son.

    NOW --- I WANT SOME REAL ANSWERS MR SHIMANO. I don't want to hear your BOD bullshit excuses and lame email apologies. I have every intention of bringing to bear the full extent of legal recourse in this matter. Rest assured ZSS will be hearing my full wrath over what was done to my child.

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  166. "There is one here on this blog who has just admitted that Shimano was intimate with his wife and you say, "YOU would better speak to this YOUR wife problem." Now, friend, that is really insensitivity."

    No it is not! Commenter was absolutely right. For a woman to have an affair with a married man hurts all three, but especially herself and the cuckolded spouse. If the woman is married, it also hurts her husband (as you say he testifies), a total of four hurt. She broke a vow: she deserves to shoulder blame for that.

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  167. Anonymous said,

    "... the rest of these people are scum...."

    Is this not a Buddhist blog? Scum, Saint, heathen.... no difference.

    But, calling someone scum because you do not agree with them is hungry ghost territory.

    Now, if you had said something like, "Followers of the way, you are all scum," I could get why that could be an interesting post.

    Hungry Ghost: Go to the McDonald's blog, you will be better served there.

    -tenshin

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  168. Anonymous said...

    "I want answers NOW.... ... when I left my 16 year old son in his care for training during his HS Summer vacation Shimano promised me he would "take good care of my son".... His "good care" involved my 16 year old child being given alcohol by an ordained Shimano monk who was HIV+ and proceeded to rape my son."

    If this is true, if my non-legal understanding is correct, under NYS law this is rape of a minor in addition to attempted manslaughter.
    These are fairly high level felonies under the NYS penal code. I'm not a father, but lost someone close to me under similar circumstances (in her case she was unconscious)... so I do know what paternalism feels like, and you have my sympathy and admiration for not throttling the perp in your case. I was saved from doing something stupid by a group of four women who put my perp in the hospital, partially to keep me from doing far more serious damage.

    This all said, it is still Rohat, and that is a star to remember.

    For those who insist this is a vendetta, please understand that statistically that is pretty hard to conclude given (a) the number of people attesting to being assaulted and (b) the shear volume of documentation suggesting there is a problem. You may have so much invested in this that you have lost sight of logic, here. For all this to be false would require the resources of a government to conjure this up. This doesn't really require much intellectual horsepower... so regardless of your brain's leanings, I would revisit your own investment in Tai San and examine how that could be distorting your thinking.

    -tenshin

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  169. "Yeah, well Shimano wasn't fucking YOUR wife."

    Good to know. Thanks.

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  170. "Wednesday's rally aims to underscore the desire to redress the unethical wrongs of 50 years and to remove (as suggested by the Faith Trust Institute) any connection between Mr. Shimano and the two Zen centers he has led."

    It is most important, and unfortunately also too much neglected in all the criticism and scorn of Mr. Shimano, that the first aim as stated above, namely "redress the unethical wrongs of 50 years", be emphasized.

    Let's hear some concrete discussion of how this can be accomplished, or if efforts are under way at the survivior's blog to address this issue.

    Let's concentrate on how to help the survivors.

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  171. Re. 11:46 rape post:

    It is hard to believe that a father is not totally engrossed in legal proceedings against his son's rapist, and is instead blowing hot air and threats of action on a blog about it.

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  172. "Rest assured ZSS will be hearing my full wrath"

    I doubt this very much. Given what you allege to have occured, you sound more like a blow hard by choosing to air grievances here than someone seriously focused on justice.

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  173. So you are calling him a liar... how grossly insensitive.

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  174. "Let's hear some concrete discussion of how this can be accomplished,..."

    Wrong blog. Can't be done on any blog. This is ZSS board business. They are ONLY ones who can actually DO anything.

    This drives the occasional piling of manure on hyperbole which stands in for doing.

    If not a member of that board, it's much more useful to stand with Olivia and Kegetsu and those others who were present this morning at Shoboji.

    Activists stand in the cold because they believe it is what needs to be done next.

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  175. The relly should be repeated on Dec 11, when
    Shimano, his wife, most of board members and
    senior students are present for Aiho's retirement
    ceremony.

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  176. Re: The allegations of the rape of a sixteen year old boy by a HIV+ monk some years ago

    This is heart wrenching stuff!

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  177. "Re: The allegations of the rape of a sixteen year old boy by a HIV+ monk some years ago

    This is heart wrenching stuff!"

    Calm down. Considering the "source" is Genkaku again it's more likely than not bullshit.

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  178. P.S. Consider also: This is the day ES retires thus the "problem" begins to move beyond range.

    What better time to pour oil on a "smoldering" fire. This is not a surprise.

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  179. Hi Anonymous 2:34 -- Just to set the record straight, I may be full of shit, but I am not the source of this comment.

    I do think I know who is the source of information and I believe it is true, but that's my problem, not my post. Your wise counsel goes too far.

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  180. Going "straight on" can be such a bitch.

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  181. "I am not the source of this comment."

    Did not mean to imply such. Sorry. I was referring to the web site and its unedited character.

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  182. Hi Anonymous 2:41 -- Your observation is correct -- the thread is largely unedited. My view is to make room for all views, however distasteful or thoughtless. For so many years, an upsetting and painful situation has been artfully edited in one way or another (both within and without). I think it is worth having the space in which to blow off steam.

    Of course you may not agree. In what way would you like it to be edited, revised, reshaped or made more to your taste?

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  183. There should be Shimano Archive section in Wiki to counteract self-aggrandizing Shimano section.

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  184. David said... to Anonymous 10:01am,

    " '... the rest of these people are scum...."

    Is this not a Buddhist blog? Scum, Saint, heathen.... no difference."


    Ah, a droll glimmer of understanding surfaces from David.

    A "Buddhist" blog it shall be.

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  185. Genkaku said,

    "Of course you may not agree. In what way would you like it to be edited, revised, reshaped or made more to your taste?"

    Hah, what is to my taste? Leave it as is and occassionly add a reminder of the "salted" nature of all of the comments seasons the soup.

    And "fairs the play" on a field with no rules.

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  186. Olivia and Kegetsu and others who turned up to protest at the Zen Studies Society today, Thank You!

    Olivia's sign was great,
    “Eido Tai Shimano UNFAIR to All Sentient Beings”
    as well as the flyer,
    “Rally at Zen Studies Society in protest of Eido Shimano's 50 years of clergy sexual exploitation and financial misconduct.”

    A photograph and the flyer are already up on shimanoarchive.com.

    Nice, thanks for going!!

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  187. What financial misconduct has been reported?

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  188. "No, questioning a teacher's inka IS legitimate questioning."

    Where does that leave teachers like Kapleau, who state they never received inka, but transmit (something) to their students nonetheless?

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  189. "Where does that leave teachers like Kapleau, who state they never received inka, but transmit (something) to their students nonetheless?"

    I was not sold a bill of goods about Kapleau. This is about Shimano.

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  190. "Re: The allegations of the rape of a sixteen year old boy by a HIV+ monk some years ago

    'This is heart wrenching stuff!'

    Calm down. Considering the "source" is Genkaku again it's more likely than not bullshit."

    Pay attention! The source is not Genkaku,but a poster on his blog. Just as authentic as Shimano's unsigned "apology" on the Tricycle blog.

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  191. Yes, the source is authentic.... the young man involved was my son and my name is Kobutsu Malone. I am not a liar....

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  192. "The source is not Genkaku,but a poster on his blog."

    Pay attention? Did you stop reading? The next few posts cover this concern.

    You misspelled poster. Try poser. It will make more sense.

    Comments made here are indeed as "authentic" as Shimanos "apology", although it is in the sense of it's all drivel.

    ;)

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  193. "Pay attention! The source is not Genkaku,but a poster on his blog. Just as authentic as Shimano's unsigned "apology" on the Tricycle blog.
    December 8, 2010 6:42 PM"

    Then, this "poster" should come out and post it to Tricycle like Eido did. And why wait till now with this outrageous BS? This blog has been going for many months now. I thinks its Malone trying to amp it up in here, inflame the rabble, its been getting kind of dull lately what with no one signing the petition and really very few "victims" coming forward. ....And why didn't we see Mr Big in the photo at the rally? I guess it didn't have the same clout as traveling thousands of miles to the deathbed of a dying zen teacher

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  194. Jeez, I didn't see Malone's post before I sent mine. Why wasn't the rape reported Malone? Or was it?

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  195. @And "fairs the play" on a field with no rules.

    No rules? Perverted rules, that is how Mr. Shimano has managed to create a “monastic” environment and a Board of Trustees where he and his monks are permitted to sexually abuse the visitors: married, single and his own ordained nuns.

    The Zen Studies Society is a dangerous and corrupt outfit, and it is completely unsurprising and credible that a teenager was sexually abused by an HIV+ monk. Which reminds me: where is Mr. Shimano's HIV test? Shouldn't that be made public?

    But speaking of rules, Mr. Shimano's conduct is a felony in a number of states, carrying prison sentences and fines, “Consent is not a defense.” Clergy sexual abuse is not simply a destructive act towards an individual family; it is a crime against the broad base of citizens at large: a felony.

    That means that even if you do a search on the web for “Zen Clergy Sexual Abuse” and then walk into Mr. Shimano's office naked, he is legally required to recognize that you are a troubled person in need of HELP, not more SEXUAL ABUSE.

    Unfortunately for the Zen Studies Society, New York State has failed to pass such criminal legislation, so the organization has had to deal with Mr. Shimano's sexual abuses again and again and again.

    Eido Shimano is a bad man. The sexual abuse is just a symptom. Stay away from him and the Zen Studies Society.


    Here's just one of many criminal statutes, this one is from Minnesota:

    609.344 CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
     (1) the actor is or purports to be a member of the clergy,
    the complainant is not married to the actor, and:
        (i) the sexual penetration occurred during the course of a meeting in which the complainant
    sought or received religious or spiritual advice, aid, or comfort from the actor in private; or
        (ii) the sexual penetration occurred during a period of time in which the complainant was
    meeting on an ongoing basis with the actor to seek or receive religious or spiritual advice, aid, or
    comfort in private. Consent by the complainant is not a defense;

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  196. @And "fairs the play" on a field with no rules.

    No rules? Perverted rules, that is how Mr. Shimano has managed to create a “monastic” environment and a Board of Trustees where he and his monks are permitted to sexually abuse the visitors: married, single and his own ordained nuns.

    The Zen Studies Society is a dangerous and corrupt outfit, and it is completely unsurprising and credible that a teenager was sexually abused by an HIV+ monk. Which reminds me: where is Mr. Shimano's HIV test? Shouldn't that be made public?

    But speaking of rules, Mr. Shimano's conduct is a felony in a number of states, carrying prison sentences and fines, “Consent is not a defense.” Clergy sexual abuse is not simply a destructive act towards an individual family; it is a crime against the broad base of citizens at large: a felony.

    That means that even if you do a search on the web for “Zen Clergy Sexual Abuse” and then walk into Mr. Shimano's office naked, he is legally required to recognize that you are a troubled person in need of HELP, not more SEXUAL ABUSE.

    Unfortunately for the Zen Studies Society, New York State has failed to pass such criminal legislation, so the organization has had to deal with Mr. Shimano's sexual abuses again and again and again.

    Eido Shimano is a bad man. The sexual abuse is just a symptom. Stay away from him and the Zen Studies Society.


    Here's just one of many criminal statutes, this one is from Minnesota:

    609.344 CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
     (1) the actor is or purports to be a member of the clergy,
    the complainant is not married to the actor, and:
        (i) the sexual penetration occurred during the course of a meeting in which the complainant
    sought or received religious or spiritual advice, aid, or comfort from the actor in private; or
        (ii) the sexual penetration occurred during a period of time in which the complainant was
    meeting on an ongoing basis with the actor to seek or receive religious or spiritual advice, aid, or
    comfort in private. Consent by the complainant is not a defense;

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  197. It's comical to see you referring to Kobutsu as "Malone" - the enemy - But why? Do you know him? Have you experienced his hospitality, his warmth, humor and stunning compassion? He is quite an approachable man and enjoys spending time with visitors. He is one of the most open and easily accessible folks around, a visit with Kobutsu is a memorable event, he loves to give people little gifts he hand-makes and is certainly one of the most gregarious individuals you are ever likely to encounter.

    Why not give him a call and arrange for a visit instead of spreading about so much unfounded hatred for someone you don't even know?

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