tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post2927167637605966973..comments2024-03-14T04:06:54.124-04:00Comments on GENKAKU-AGAIN (adam fisher): Zen transmission ... who's kidding whom?genkakuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-50801332551827467342016-07-05T05:48:24.193-04:002016-07-05T05:48:24.193-04:00Thanks Adam Fisher for letting my read this post. ...Thanks Adam Fisher for letting my read this post. It was interessting to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-70602267134512675862015-07-13T17:25:47.394-04:002015-07-13T17:25:47.394-04:00"Japan sent us their bad apples", lol. T..."Japan sent us their bad apples", lol. That's pretty good. It does seem like that sometimes...that they sent us the bad apples who were to charismatic for them to simply supress. But, I'm afraid the answer is quite simply that the sort of behavior being railed against is, while not widespread, tolerated in Japanese zen. So, zen masters from Japan came over and some just acted as they normally would have. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-90015541810579246392014-11-27T22:29:55.258-05:002014-11-27T22:29:55.258-05:00Did Zenrin really do that or was it just Eido? Loo...Did Zenrin really do that or was it just Eido? Look I say that because I know him now. He doesn't seem like that kind of person (but I could be wrong...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-45917675231753631402014-01-06T06:15:10.479-05:002014-01-06T06:15:10.479-05:00Some of those posting here have not understood. Ei...Some of those posting here have not understood. Either there are dharma heirs of Shimano or there are none, so Marinello et al. are none, too. On the other hand, Soen giving transmission to Eido was witnessed, as you will also see in the Archives or somewhere else on the web. Well, if then Marinello et al. split from their predecessor, they themselves are indeed no dharma heirs anymore. So if you give anything about that, make it logic and consequent.GiDohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00037285400565881820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-83765124127861008652013-11-28T13:42:29.939-05:002013-11-28T13:42:29.939-05:00It seems the zen community has no problem with exc...It seems the zen community has no problem with excessive Drama Transmission.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780043240144875550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-20903883083032769252013-11-28T12:52:43.033-05:002013-11-28T12:52:43.033-05:00From the archive:
http://www.shimanoarchive.com/P...From the archive:<br /><br />http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20131126_Marinello_ZSS_Board.pdf<br /><br />An Email From Genjo Marinello Roshi to the ZSS Board<br /><br />November 26, 2013 10:56 AM<br /><br />“I am uncomfortable that the Zen Studies Society is listing The Jacksonville Zen Sangha, that Eido Roshi’s newly transmitted Dharma Heir Zenrin Roshi runs, as a related Zen Center. It certainly gives the impression that ZSS is still intimately linked to Shimano's ongoing teaching efforts, even though ZSS has been clear for sometime that Eido Shimano is not welcome to teach on their own properties.”<br /><br />“I believe ZSS now fully believes that Eido Shimano should not be encouraged to teach anywhere, then it seems reasonable that ZSS should drop its affiliated status with the Jacksonville Zen Sangha.”Kobutsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061296390834646030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-55667279850560896762013-11-27T16:19:36.213-05:002013-11-27T16:19:36.213-05:00It appears that Zenrin's Jacksonville center h...It appears that Zenrin's Jacksonville center has be just removed from the public AZTA database.Father Williamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-71125212299431865362013-11-26T17:14:04.711-05:002013-11-26T17:14:04.711-05:00Could be Shimano's hoping that Zenrin will be ...Could be Shimano's hoping that Zenrin will be his back door back into Zen Studies. Especially if Shinge wises up and pulls out of the whole Shimano train-wreck with it's financial troubles, multimillion dollar law suits, and, no doubt low respect, low attendence and low donor base.<br />Osumunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-68384173573979216322013-11-26T13:02:48.968-05:002013-11-26T13:02:48.968-05:00Recently posted to the Shimano Archive (http://www...Recently posted to the Shimano Archive (http://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20131126_Patterson.pdf), this series of relevant remarks:<br /><br />Subject: Shimano and DBZ<br /><br />Date: November 26, 2013 10:29:09 AM EST<br />To: kobutsu.malone<br /><br />I'm a Zen student observing the Shimano train-wreck with appalled fascination.<br /><br />I think that DBZ need to have their feet held to the fire about their current relationship with Shimano.<br /><br />For instance Robert Lewis has just been made "Roshi" by Shimano. On looking at the Jacksonville Zen center web site, Jacksonville (where Lewis is the teacher) claim to be affiliated with DBZ. Is this OK with DBZ and Shinge?<br /><br />If so, they are obviously comfortable with Shimano continuing to<br />practice and give out "transmission".<br /><br />There's only so much the wider Zen community can do, but there is no doubt that Shimano's behavior has done immense damage not just to DBZ or to Rinzai Zen, but to the whole Buddhist Sangha, especially in North America.<br /><br />Nick Pattersongenkakuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135705172119950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-84095789590621934902013-11-26T06:22:53.897-05:002013-11-26T06:22:53.897-05:00and $US 675.and $US 675.Christophernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-51577392668833871492013-11-25T19:37:53.779-05:002013-11-25T19:37:53.779-05:00Your rational mind....Your rational mind....Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-92106869035184005862013-11-25T17:54:45.978-05:002013-11-25T17:54:45.978-05:00What is the price of admission to these gatherings...What is the price of admission to these gatherings?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-44336983098094981462013-11-25T15:17:58.104-05:002013-11-25T15:17:58.104-05:00As a child of the "Protest Generation", ...As a child of the "Protest Generation", it took me a long time to realize that I am not here to change to world, but rather to be changed by my experience of it. Having recognized what it is truly about, I can adjust my behavior accordingly and create the circumstances to move beyond it. Of course, along the way, we can point out the dead ends of greed, envy, hatred, judgmentalism, arrogance, and ignorance to those who may have eyes to notice, and so serve a compassionate function. Nevertheless, unless we want to return again and again to the same sand box, our task is to learn and let go, rather than harboring anger over the apparent stupidity and evil that dominate this stage (imo). Whatever we fixate on holds us back, and that includes our so-called spiritual strategies, methods, and ideals. Burn it all up! There will always be creeps like Shimano prowling this low level war planet, because that is the kind of place this is, dominated as it is by the dark influences that make samsara samsara. We can rail against it, get caught in the trap of our own sense of outrage, or wise up and move on. Bobhttp://theconsciousprocess.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-33973515716545030052013-11-25T14:57:17.869-05:002013-11-25T14:57:17.869-05:00Zenrin is a violent lunatic who has physically ass...Zenrin is a violent lunatic who has physically assaulted women at Dai Bosatsu. Putting this man in a position of authority is a sick, misguided effort on Shimano's part.... SHAME! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4904219782540965444.post-59147562868100049272013-11-25T14:20:37.287-05:002013-11-25T14:20:37.287-05:00It sounds like they had a nice time LARPINGIt sounds like they had a nice time <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game" rel="nofollow">LARPING</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780043240144875550noreply@blogger.com