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I originally posted this in November last year. Later, I collected it with other posts I considered removing from this blog. Later still, it was suggested I put the posts back ... which I did. Today I got a call from someone who was looking for this particular post and was having a hard time finding it because it was in among other posts headed "putting it back." So ... I am giving it back its own space and title for whoever might find it useful.
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Thursday, November 12, 2009
letter to Eido Tai Shimano
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What follows is a letter I wrote in 1982 to Eido Tai Shimano, the chief executive of Zen Studies Society in New York and Dai Bosatsu Monastery in upstate New York. Mr. Shimano is a Zen teacher.
The reason for posting a letter of so many years ago is not to open the old wounds that bled freely in their time. Nor is it to deny that Zen Buddhism in America has made great strides when it comes to the sexual and financial abuses that it has faced and continues to face from time to time. Nor is it to suggest that I have not been a hypocrite. Nor is it to elevate my own status as a rebel or nay-sayer or promoter of some one true virtue. I too love Zen Buddhism both in its directions and in its experiential truth.
I am posting it as a reminder that the past is or can be very much the present and further that the 'scandals' that have occurred involved very real and particular people and that those people suffered in ways that are contrary to Zen Buddhist teaching. Not for nothing did the teachers of the past make upsetting the sangha a no-no. Not for nothing did they encourage repentance when it was warranted. And not for nothing were they aware that in the human sphere, however elevated and adored, the room for error was and remains a very real possibility.
November 1, 1982
The Rev. Eido Tai Shimano
New York Zendo
223 East 67th St.
New York, NY 11021
Dear Mr. Shimano:
Thank you for your creative letter of Oct. 19, 1982 with its equally masterful enclosure of Oct. 21 to Mr. George (Jochi) Zournas. I must say that as I began to read your work I felt some vestigial hope that you might in fact clear the air, turn some metaphorical corner and clarify what, over the years, has become murky with the stuff that Soen Roshi has learned to call your “lies.” By the time I finished reading your words, I was, of course, disappointed if not surprised.
“So much sitting, so many sesshins, so many dokusans…” and still Soen Roshi calls you a liar. Could you tell me why? Is this perhaps another encouragement to “bravely march on?” Coming as Soen Roshi does out of a society that takes pride in indirection, still he uses this most direct word, “liar.” Why? Coming as he does out of a discipline that enjoins confession and straight-forwardness, he calls you a liar. Why? Among the monks at Dai Bosatsu last summer you managed to plant the idea that Soen Roshi was an alcoholic and/or senile. But why would a senile alcoholic even bother to call you a liar? Politics, you say? – because Soen Roshi wants Dai Bosatsu, to become king of the some American Zen castle? If Soen Roshi actually did want Dai Bosatsu, why not give it to him? Do you not owe him a great debt for his teaching, perhaps as Torei felt he owed Hakuin? As a ‘true man without rank,’ with so many sesshins, so much sitting, and so many dokusans behind you, surely you recognize that the toys of Zen Buddhism – the robes and monasteries and power – are only dreams. Could you, a ‘Zen Mater,’ be fooled by a dream?
But this, of course, is not your understanding. Your understanding seems to be that They are all out to get you – you who are blameless in administration, honest in the dokusan room, pure and “fair” and deserving of respect from those who support and make possible your meaning as a person of rank. It is the questioners who are “insane” or full of “intense personal hatred” or want Your zendo or want Your monastery or hate you because you have money and they have not or don’t understand the ‘Japanese’ group and you…you bear it all so remarkably well, so staunch and patient. You are really very good at it: masterful, if not the master.
Besides those Jochi George Zournas mentioned in his letter (those Others who were out to get you), I would like to take this opportunity to recollect some others, perhaps not quite so august, who have left our own sangha. I am not now referring to those who left because they moved or to those who made an easy personal choice, but rather to those who left after some discovery in that beautiful zendo where there is room for our lifelong practice. True, some left in anger or confusion, but what was it they really discovered? Is it possible they discovered what Soen Roshi called your “lies?” I really don’t know, but I recollect them now and express my sorrow at their leaving: Daishin Peter Gamby, Maishin Mike Sopko, Reimon Ray Crivello, Genmyo Elihu Smith, Sojun George Seraganian, Bunyu David Bogart, Roca Lorca Morello (all of whom were residents as Sho Bo Ji with your blessings),Kanzan Bruce Rickenbacker (your monk who memorized the whole of the Diamond Sutra), Daiko Charles Carpenter (another of your monks), Shoro Lou Nordstrom (another of your monks), Kozen Peter Kaufman (another of your monks), Jonen Sheila Carmen (pseudonym), Wendy Megerman, Nennen Merry White, Toni Snow, Reishu Jim Gordon, Shinso Merete Galesi, Ishin Peter Mathiessen, Jean Day, Carol Binswanger, Jochi George Zournas, Wado Vicki Gerdy, Rinko Peggy Crawford and Mushin Frank LoCicero. You will recall, or course, that, over the years, the list has grown much, much, much longer and is filled with people who did not show sufficient “skepticism about rumors,” as you so quaintly put it.
How many of them came to you directly in 1975 and 1979 (when what were humorously referred to as the “Fuck Follies I” and the ”Fuck Follies II” were unveiled)? How many? Was it 10 or perhaps 20? Without any exception I know of, each of those who came to you directly came in a spirit of admiration and love, in hopes of clarifying a delicate matter without public exposure. The situation: your manipulation of the dokusan setting for your own periodic sexual satisfaction (seducing women); treating lovers taken from within the sangha with contempt once you had finished with them; and taking no candid responsibility for your own behavior but rather answering direct, honest and caring queries with, in one form or another, the line you used in a jam-packed zendo in 1975: “It’s none of your business.”
The line of people outside your door is long, very, very long. In my mind, they wait silently – the They and Them whom you so easily accuse of insanity or intense personal hatred. A long line of crazy people outside your door. What brought them there? Even crazy people have their reasons, don’t you agree?
Look! There’s Merry White. Remember her? She was the one who sent a letter to the Board of Trustees in 1979 outlining without rancor your sexual blackmail. It was she who wrote: “Personally, I found his (your) seductions very distracting and jarring during the first Kessei…I wonder now if I would not have been a better student in the long run without it. ... And last year (1978) during my second stay at Dai Bosatsu, it hurt me that he treated me very distantly for quite a while. When he warmed up, it became sexual again. That kind of either/or situation made it very difficult for me (or, I would think, any woman) to be his student. You want his attention and his help, and that, I think, is how it begins. He takes this emotional opening-up, which is normal and right in a spiritual student-teacher relationship, as a sign of sexual readiness.” Clearly the Board of Trustees, your Board of Trustees, took the only possible sane action by never fully discussing the matter and by issuing a letter, signed by Korin Sylvan Busch stating, “we affirm our confidence in Eido Roshi and his leadership of our sangha.”
And there’s Jane Smith (pseudonym)! Remember her? December 24, 1977, Room 1100A at the Statler Hilton after dinner at Mama Leone’s. Remember how the board of Trustees covered that one when Jochi and Korin, at whose instigation I can only guess, spread lies and rumors about Jane – how she was only dreaming of an affair with you? And how even Jane was drawn into the lies and told them on herself because she believed the truth would be harmful to you and to Zen practice in America? She was the same one who commented later in front of witnesses that “he (you) never even said thank you.”
And Carmen!… But of course you will recall this and much, much more.
On and on and on it goes down that long, long line. Person after person, Bodhisattva after crazy Bodhisattva, each of them willing their suspicions to silence. How is it possible they were so willing, so stupid? Perhaps it was because many people begin their spiritual practice with the understanding that the ascendancy they have previously granted to their emotions and intellect is the source of much suffering. Because of that pain, they were willing to set aside their own emotions and intellect (to the extent possible), and to be as faithful and obedient as possible. Perhaps they counseled themselves that intellect and emotion are more delusion. And perhaps they trusted that your emotions and thoughts were not based in delusion. This trust, however misguided, was surely human and understandable. Unfortunately, it was and is open to manipulation and deceit. There are many I know, myself among them, who practiced with you and were grateful to you, until, a little at a time, they began to wonder. In their wondering, they came to you in their twos and threes and tens, not even caring very much that you took lovers on the side, but curious about a wider pattern of contempt and manipulation. No doubt you saw them as insane people out to take your toys. Well, they didn’t get them, did they?
To some you said your Japanese heritage and samurai code of honor kept you from understanding or responding to these puritanical “barbarians.” Isn’t it odd for a so-called Zen Master who has lived in America for 20 years to claim he understands neither his students nor his environment? Isn’t such a person in the wrong line of work? No doubt it is equally insane to suggest that a real Japanese man would know something of discretion and that a true samurai would not exhibit contempt and dishonesty towards those in his own circle of honorable endeavor.
Of course it was more difficult to use this line on Dr. Tadao Ogura, the psychiatrist who offered to act as arbitrator in the present upheaval. He was the one who suggested taking three “impartial” observers from the sangha with him when he listened to the direct testimony of those involved. The group would then have reported to the Board of Trustees, your own Board of Trustees. Perhaps he too was one of the insane ones, the ones who had to be stopped. And stopped he was when Korin Sylvan Busch, at whose instigation I can only guess, let it be known that three “impartial” sangha members could not be found.
The long line outside your door does not say these things. They are silent. They are gone. It is I who say them, I, Kigen. I take responsibility for saying what I have said and doing what I have done. I have company, but I take responsibility for myself. I am one of Them, those Others whose fault it all is, one of the ones who supported you well, offered you gratitude, did his best to practice the Zen Buddhism of the Patriarchs, lied or remained silent for you on numbers of occasions, lied or remained silent to myself about you, endured and perpetuated your deceits, and, finally...went...”insane.”
It is out of that insanity that I also offer you my most sincere and honest thanks. I offer thanks without irony or sarcasm. You have taught me well and I am grateful. Besides the mechanics of Zen Buddhism, you have also taught me what a Zen Master is not – a teaching worthy of a true Zen Master. Although your teaching lacked the creative clarity, the nurturing of the Buddha Dharma, and the straight-forwardness of a truly enlightened man, still I say your teaching was fine. As I value my life, my Zen practice, so I value this teaching.
This is a time for potential new beginnings – yours, mine, the sangha’s. Always new beginnings. I pray now and will continue to pray that each of us may one day face death with strong, even breaths and perhaps a small smile of true understanding.
Thank you and goodbye.
Adam Fisher
It was during that same time period that I heard perhaps the sharpest rebuke I have ever heard in my life. At one point, Soen Roshi was talking face to face with Mr. Shimano and discussing the reported disharmony Mr. Shimano played a role in. Mr. Shimano offered his responses. And Soen Roshi reportedly said sadly, "Now it comes -- dead rock!"
"If it had not been for the internet, or Aitken, or the Archives... it would have been much more easy for this latest uproar to be swept under the rug."
ReplyDeleteVery true. Even now, in his letter to the NY Times, Shimano is still complaining about the misuse of his "private Board documents", as if the disclosure were the problem and not the issues themselves.
" 'Nobody... and I mean N O B O D Y believes this crap anymore.
ReplyDeleteThe more they try to deify that sad little man, the more they try to put him on a pedestal even after all this information in the Shimano Archives - the more they de-legitimize themselves.
I will continue to recommend to ANYONE within earshot to stay far... FAR away from DBZ,ZSS and any of Eido Roshi's heirs...
I will continue to send the archives to anyone who has no knowledge of the sad history of everything this sad little fellow has touched... '"
...
"YES!"
"Thank you for the shimanoarchive.com and thank you all for your efforts to warn the public. Good work! "
Ditto!
Gassho
Spike said about Genjo:
ReplyDelete"Given the quality of his published teishos, his teaching does not seem to be adversely affected. ".
Spike! What teaching? How to bend over backwards to give a harmful sociopath so much compassion that he can go on to abuse people's trust again and again and again?
"Spike has not answered this question,
ReplyDeletewhat will happen after Shimano away for one year? Putting him back to DBZ and interfering again? "
Spike, please give us some of the details behind your thinking. What kind of "rehabilitation" will Shimano be required to obtain during that year? What kind of restitution should he be required to pay? What kind of showing would he have to make to be allowed around any student on ZSS or DBZ property ever again?
Is such a sociopath even susceptible to the kind of change needed?
The mere passage of time does not in and of itself bring about such transformation. (MLK)
Dear members of the Board of Directors of ZSS & members of ZSS Sangha,
ReplyDeleteThis most recent revelation of Eido Shimano Roshi's attitude towards the meaning of his conduct, as reported, and, his position, as expressed in his letter, - all, go well beyond a mere "denial". It is a familiar (see his past expression of regret & other published communications from ZSS) set of distortions, omissions & manipulations.
I believe that Eido Shimano Roshi is incapable of seeing the true nature of his conduct, its consequences to people involved, and its broader meaning. His "reality" is so self-serving & apparently so fundamental to his view of the world & himself that he is unable to respond to other people's perception of the same facts with any degree of compassion.
He is like a machinist who brought the train to a wreck but, who continues to stand on top of the ruins, clutching controls for his dear life.
The ZSS Board will make a tragic mistake, if they continue to to define their actions by the way it might affect Eido Shimano Roshi. His "distance" from the administration of ZSS changes absolutely nothing. These maneuvers continue to revolve around the same recalcitrant position of the Board: ZSS can derive its legitimacy & practice authority ONLY from association with Eido Shimano Roshi. For as long as that remains so, nothing will change in our stricken organization.
The Board had been appointed & received its delegated authority from their Teacher & has no other claim at legitimacy.
What was that meeting with Sangha members, referred to in the Board's documentation? How many people were present? How were they selected? Was this meeting announced in advance & how was it publicized? Why can't we have an unexpurgated list of supporters & other interested people – who are prepared to make or renew commitment to ZSS - and poll them on fundamental questions of ZSS survival? In any mainstream non-profit organization, Boards represent the avowed mission & will of its members. Members of the Board are entrusted with a fiduciary obligation to carry out this will on behalf of all the members & in a spirit of the organization's core mission.
Whose will does ZSS Board of Directors carry out? Whom do they represent, at this point? Do we have to wait for a joint legal action by people aggrieved by Eido Shimano Roshi? Should we wait for an injunction from the Court to put a stop to the unseemly maneuvers to grant Eido Shimano Roshi the spiritual status and position he clearly does not deserve. Remember Jack Welsh & the GM Board. Why do we have to live with this never-ending scandal?
I trust that we still have more than a handful of Sangha members who continue to believe in ZSS future & who had not been driven into despair of any possibility of change in our Zendo. Eido Shimano Roshi's decisive removal from power & influence, is only a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite for change.
The house empty of Right Practice can not stand! We should re-enter our
Zendo with full & courageous heart & fill it with Good Effort. Taking a position on these painful matters is the beginning of such effort.
Gassho,
Zogen
http://www.sanghaconvergence.org/DATA/20101216_Zogen_ZSS.pdf
"No, no pass. Teishos and talks for the Sangha on these issues, article in ZSS magazine Spring issue on how she will lead/is leading, and published interview (covering everything) with outside journal for anyone worldwide to more easily access, would be my recommendation.
ReplyDeleteSpike"
When?
After she has dropped from the last thread of credibility from which she is presently dangling?
The more Spike speaks, the clearer it becomes how shallow he is...
ReplyDelete"Ms. Chayat needs to do a published interview (Tricycle?) that includes the important questions of past, present and future."
ReplyDelete"And with more than vague references and platitudes."
"You really want to read Chayat's pathetic praises of her fallen master in the words from the unconditional realm on the pages of Tricycle? She will not last long... "
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After Eido Tai Shimano's December 1st letter of denial to the NYT, Shinge Roshi's expressions of "gratitude for 'Eido Roshi’s uncompromising and penetrating Dharma Eye, which reveals directly the luminous power of the unconditioned mind ' " are just not going to cut it.
It would make an amusing YouTube piece...
ReplyDelete"Ms. Chayat needs to do a published interview (Tricycle?) that includes the important questions of past, present and future."
ReplyDeleteThat would require quite an amazing feat of gymnastics to come out of that appearing credible.
"It would make an amusing YouTube piece... "
ReplyDeleteOr something on Colbert.
Genjo said:
ReplyDelete"I just saw the letter yesterday dated Dec. 1st to the NYT Editor signed by Eido Shimano Roshi. I am shocked, disturbed and offended. In this letter he says that that he has been falsely accused. In my mind it makes a mockery of Eido Roshi's public apology of September 7th. I understand trying to "save face" but this is an attempt to rewrite history and is and example of denial pure and simple."
Is that it? No follow-up? Hello boards ...
what is the next step? The Catholics did
much better. Or maybe we have blind-deaf donkeys
sitting in boards and as dharma teachers.
Does compassion in this Zen mean approving
unwholesome acts?
"Is that it? No follow-up? Hello boards ...
ReplyDeletewhat is the next step?"
Too busy planning the next spectacle.
...something memorable for the appearance it creates.
ReplyDeleteThis from Sweeping Zen:
ReplyDelete"Shimano Roshi recently retired on December 08, 2010 at the end of their Rohatsu sesshin. He was honored as Founding Abbot of the two temples maintained by the Zen Studies Society – Dai Bosatsu Zendo Kongo-ji and New York Zendo Shobo-ji."
He was honored?
"Ms. Chayat needs to do a published interview (Tricycle?) that includes the important questions of past, present and future."
ReplyDeleteThat would require quite an amazing feat of gymnastics to come out of that appearing credible.
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That presumes that Tricycle has the ability and will to ask hard questions.
True
ReplyDeleteAnd they probably won't, as they have not.
ReplyDeleteThe witch ain't worth the effort.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDelete"Is that it? No follow-up? Hello boards ...
what is the next step?"
An empty, burned out sun collapses.
Hollow the bastard who dances for this.
Much is made here of poisonous fruit and its motherless tree. What is this blog but such a fruit? What are those who here insist on a death for a death but such fruit growing in the misery and shadow of their own pain?
Help others by healing self. Or wither and die. There is NO other way to this.
In fairness, even those media not concerned with soft-balling the spiritual world seem incapable of digging in to all but the most egregious (eg. Roman Catholic church and its sexual abuses or splinter-sect Muslims) missteps.
ReplyDeleteWhen the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston came crashing down in 1982 thanks to the efforts of Mitchell Garabedian, Bernard Cardinal Law was conveniently “elevated” to a position at the Vatican.
ReplyDeleteSince Myoshin-Ji, the headquarters of the Rinzai Zen Sect that produced Eido Shimano, has been aware of the “problem” for half a century and since they offered Soen Nakagawa the position of Myoshin-Ji rekiju (high-ranking ecclesiastical officer) in 1975, perhaps it is now time for Myoshin-Ji to offer the position to Soen’s Dharma heir Eido Shimano in “honor” of his fifty years teaching in America. Shimano deserves to be “elevated.”
Yes, Genkaku,I say that they probably will not, as they have not, with resignation, rather than accusation.
ReplyDeleteBut REDdirt, I'm not persisting because I am looking for a death for a death. I want to be sure that until the board takes the corrective action that it must, people who are unaware as they read the company line that has been put out there, and are thinking about joining up, that they can still find accurate information upon which to decide. That is what helps ME to heal.
Shimano deserves to be “elevated.”
ReplyDelete__________________________________
Yes indeed! An excellent suggestion, one worthy both of the supplicant and of the nobly-silent agency that might bestow it...
... but only if Mr. Shimano goes home to assume his new rank and position.
Come and get him!
ReplyDeleteOMG,Genny's in the house!
ReplyDeleteWhat could so move him?
Ah, yes, irresistable to such ...
With dozens watching in silence by the hour.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteto REDdirt, I'm not persisting because I am looking for a death for a death. I want to be sure that until the board takes the corrective action that it must, people who are unaware as they read the company line that has been put out there, and are thinking about joining up, that they can still find accurate information upon which to decide. That is what helps ME to heal."
"I want to be sure that until the board takes the corrective action that it must,..."
Then perhaps better to wait and drink from a glass which contains drinkable water.
"people who are unaware as they read the company line that has been put out there, and are thinking about joining up,"
Is this work not done and done ten times over?
"That is what helps ME to heal."
Then good healing wishes go where ever you go.
Thank you
ReplyDelete"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDeleteIt continues to be made obscure.
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDeleteThe price of freedom is constant vigilence.
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDeleteIt continues to be made obscure.
The price of democracy is constant vigilance.
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDeleteLook at their website and wiki ... done or undone
ten times over? Be realistic and do not live
in unconditional illusion.
"Since Myoshin-Ji, ... perhaps it is now time for Myoshin-Ji to offer the position to Soen’s Dharma heir Eido Shimano in “honor” of his fifty years teaching in America. Shimano deserves to be “elevated.” "
The problem is Shimano already severed ZSS from official Rinzai lineage. In otherwords, he chose
to become a bastard (is it the correct word for
having no parents and illegitimate?).
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDelete"It continues to be made obscure."
"The price of democracy is constant vigilance. "
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
"Look at their website and wiki ... done or undone ten times over? Be realistic and do not live in unconditional illusion."
"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
Perhaps, and it shall be done ten times ten times ten again, if need be.
Do we sit in zazen ten times and consider our work to be over?
In larger scale ... should we go to war ten times over and over?
ReplyDeleteA false comparison.
ReplyDelete"The price of freedom is constant vigilence."
ReplyDeleteWhich is to say those who watch have no freedom at all. Thus rest only the wicked.
A pity. Like cleaning mud must be such work as this; vastly encumbering and most burdensome to be swirled and swirled endlessly about.
I think we should elevate Shimano as The Great American Zen Patriach. Maybe Dogen or Bodhidharma as comparison.
ReplyDelete"Is this work not done and done ten times over?"
ReplyDeletePerhaps, and it shall be done ten times ten times ten again, if need be.
Do we sit in zazen ten times and consider our work to be over?
Well answered. I wonder "if need be" is right now and simply suggest such need is not present.
December 28, 2010 3:34 PM asks: "is it (bastard) the correct word for having no parents and illegitimate?)."
ReplyDeleteBastard is how the state recognizes a child if the parents are not legally married when the child is born. Whether or not this applies to Eido Shimano seems to be well astray of the subject of this blog. ;)
" ' Is this work not done and done ten times over?'
ReplyDeletePerhaps, and it shall be done ten times ten times ten again, if need be.
Do we sit in zazen ten times and consider our work to be over?
Well answered. I wonder 'if need be' is right now and simply suggest such need is not present."
Respectfully, while Shimano is still there in any capacity, I think that right now the need is still present.
Something to remember in the midst ...
ReplyDeleteThis years Nobel Peace Prize.....
"In 1989 he returned home to take part in the dawning democracy movement. On the 2nd of June he and some friends started a hunger strike on Tiananmen Square to protest against the state of emergency that had been declared. They issued a six-point democratic manifesto, written by Liu, opposing dictatorship and in favour of democracy. Liu was opposed to any physical struggle against the authorities on the part of the students; he tried to find a peaceful solution to the tension between the students and the government. Non-violence was already figuring prominently in his message. On the 4th of June he and his friends tried to prevent a clash between the army and the students. He was only partially successful. Many lives were lost, most of them outside Tiananmen Square.
Liu has told his wife that he would like this year’s Peace Prize to be dedicated to “the lost souls from the 4th of June.” It is a pleasure for us to fulfil his wish.
Liu has said that “The greatness of non-violent resistance is that even as man is faced with forceful tyranny and the resulting suffering, the victim responds to hate with love, to prejudice with tolerance, to arrogance with humility, to humiliation with dignity, and to violence with reason.”
Neither Liu himself nor his wife were permitted to leave China to accept the prize. Behind Jagland, on the stage, were two empty seats."
Keep up the good fight, but fight clean.
"Respectfully, while Shimano is still there in any capacity, I think that right now the need is still present."
ReplyDeleteI do not disagree with this but it seems more important now to, as the next comment suggests,
"Keep up the good fight, but fight clean."
Taking gratuitous and content empty shots at other contributors here is not watchfulness; it is nastiness and I think it unnecessary and entirely irrelevant to the effort to clean up ZSS.
Genkaku has an interesting comment on his blog today about enablers.
"Perhaps it is now time for Myoshin-Ji to offer the position to Soen’s Dharma heir Eido Shimano in “honor” of his fifty years teaching in America."
ReplyDelete...
- or -
Sherry Chyat should take him to Syracuse. - or -
Joe Marinello should take him to Seattle. - or -
Richard Rudin should take him to California.
It is thoughtless and cruel for The Zen Studies Society Board of Trustees to continue to inflict Mr. Shimano's presence on the Zen Studies Society.
Dear members of the Board of Directors of ZSS & members of ZSS Sangha,
ReplyDeleteThis most recent revelation of Eido Shimano Roshi's attitude towards the meaning of his conduct, as reported, and his position, as expressed in his letter, --all, go well beyond a mere "denial". It is a familiar (see his past expression of regret & other published communications from ZSS) set of distortions, omissions & manipulations.
I believe that Eido Shimano Roshi is incapable of seeing the true nature of his conduct, its consequences to people involved, and its broader meaning. His "reality" is so self-serving & apparently so fundamental to his view of the world & himself that he is unable to respond to other people's perception of the same facts with any degree of compassion.
He is like a machinist who brought the train to a wreck but who continues to stand on top of the ruins, clutching controls for his dear life.
The ZSS Board will make a tragic mistake if they continue to to define their actions by the way it might affect Eido Shimano Roshi. His "distance" from the administration of ZSS changes absolutely nothing. These maneuvers continue to revolve around the same recalcitrant position of the Board: ZSS can derive its legitimacy & practice authority ONLY from association with Eido Shimano Roshi. For as long as that remains so, nothing will change in our stricken organization.
The Board had been appointed & received its delegated authority from their Teacher & has no other claim at legitimacy.
What was that meeting with Sangha members, referred to in the Board's documentation? How many people were present? How were they selected? Was this meeting announced in advance & how was it publicized? Why can't we have an unexpurgated list of supporters & other interested people – who are prepared to make or renew commitment to ZSS - and poll them on fundamental questions of ZSS survival? In any mainstream non-profit organization, Boards represent the avowed mission & will of its members. Members of the Board are entrusted with a fiduciary obligation to carry out this will on behalf of all the members & in a spirit of the organization's core mission.
Whose will does ZSS Board of Directors carry out? Whom do they represent, at this point? Do we have to wait for a joint legal action by people aggrieved by Eido Shimano Roshi? Should we wait for an injunction from the Court to put a stop to the unseemly maneuvers to grant Eido Shimano Roshi the spiritual status and position he clearly has forfeited? Remember Jack Welsh & the GM Board. Why do we have to live with this never-ending scandal?
I trust that we still have more than a handful of Sangha members who continue to believe in ZSS future & who have not been driven into despair of any possibility of change in our Zendo. Eido Shimano Roshi's decisive removal from power & influence, is only a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite for change.
The house empty of Right Practice can not stand! We should re-enter our Zendo with full & courageous heart & fill it with Good Effort. Taking a position on these painful matters is the beginning of such effort.
Gassho,
Zogen
You may wish to read my first letter at:
http://sanghaconvergence.org/
Shimano's lies and Machiavellian machinations will no longer work with the presence of the internet. Shimano's old and tired ambiguous maneuvering will not fly in cyber-space where things get noticed and responded to immediately.
ReplyDeleteHere: Mark Oppenheimer, the NY Times reporter, has some words for Mr. Shimano:
http://markoppenheimer.com/front-page/a-buddhist-vs-me.html
Dec 29, 7:33 AM (ET)
ReplyDeleteBy GABRIELE STEINHAUSER
BRUSSELS (AP) - A Belgian priest has confessed to a child sex-abuse accusation that came to light during a campaign to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work fighting globalization's impact on developing countries.
The confession was published in a Belgian newspaper Wednesday and confirmed by the organization the priest founded, deepening a sex-abuse scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church in the country. After a spate of accusations this year, the church in September published the harrowing accounts of more than 100 victims of clerical sex abuse, some as young as two when they were assaulted.
In October, after supporters of 85-year-old Francois Houtart began working to nominate him for the Nobel, a woman contacted the nonprofit organization he founded and said the priest had abused her brother 40 years ago, according to its director, Bernard Duterme.
-- Complete story: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101229/D9KDILCO0.html
I am sorry to ask this but what is Zogen, I mean, what is his relationship with ZSS and ES? I saw his open letter but that contains no information on himself. Was he a bard member or what?
ReplyDeleteFrom the first Zogen letter:
ReplyDelete"A few words about my background and the nature of my "connection" to
ZSS. My professional formation was that of a clinical psychiatrist but the
second half of my 40-year career was spent in corporate consulting,
individual and organizational -- conflict resolution, leadership team and
organizational development, mergers and restructuring of acquisitions. I
have had a long and varied experience of human rights advocacy-- the
struggle against the use of psychiatry as tool for political control, and
organizing and fund raising efforts on behalf of Amnesty International USA. I
have participated in the healing process for the victims of torture and relief
programs for political prisoners. Since the mid-70s, I have had numerous
occasions to hear, entirely unsolicited, reports about Eido Shimano Roshi's
conduct with women, among his students, ordained priests and, even, one of
his Dharma heirs. I am not given to gossip but these persistent reports were
enough to move me to maintain a distance from Dai Bosatsu Zendo and
Shobo-ji communities.
However, I continued to practice and, periodically, participate in weekend
and full Sesshins. Years later, I was fortunate enough to meet a Teacher
within the American Rinzai tradition and took Jukai at DBZ. I was present at
past anniversary celebrations both for Eido Roshi and Dai Bosatsu Zendo.
This letter is signed with my Dharma name-- Zogen.
**"
Thank you for his background.
ReplyDeleteBut it seems he is quite remote from ZSS, an outsider.
I am not sure if his letters carry any weight, to be honest.
The previous post is a small part of Zogen's letter to the ZSS Board of Trustees, 12/16/2010.
ReplyDeleteIt's definitely worth reading the whole letter. I've just read it for the third time and I must say that this fellow Zogen is familiar with the dynamics of the organization, its problems...and offers solutions.
Go to sanghaconvergence.org. It's the first letter in the column on the left.
Here's the direct link:
http://www.sanghaconvergence.org/DATA/20101216_Zogen_ZSS.pdf
Well, many people have a solution, as always the case with real world. The difficult part is to create the momentum towards execution by massaging people's ego.
ReplyDeleteWhat I meant is, given so many people directly affected or involved in ZSS, a person from outside jumps in, tell what to do and even sending open letter claiming he knows the situation well simply don't sound right. Hard to explain but I feel it is a shallow move, like a newly graduated MBA student giving a lecture to experienced managers what they know very well.
Zogen said...
ReplyDelete"I was fortunate enough to meet a Teacher
within the American Rinzai tradition and took Jukai at DBZ. I was present at past anniversary celebrations both for Eido Roshi and Dai Bosatsu Zendo."
...
I would say that Zogen is an insider (not an outsider).
It's important to recognize that any letter that is specifically addressed to the ZSS Board of Trustees carries great weight.
Letters should also include a statement like, "Would you please read my letter aloud at the next ZSS Board Meeting and attach a copy of my letter to the Minutes of the meeting."
...
It appears to me that the Board has legally buffered itself from any "direct knowledge" of the sexual abuses of Mr. Shimano and other ZSS clergy, by hiring the Faith Trust Institute to collect the testimony.
The Faith Trust Institute was not hired to do a proactive investigation. They were hired to passively listen to people speak and then to present a recommendation to the Board.
I would assume that the only piece of "evidence" that the Board has actually received from the Faith Trust Institute, is their very tame list of recommendations.
...
I am disappointed that the Faith Trust Institute would open their organization up to the appearance of collusion. They should have insisted that Mr. Shimano be suspended and removed from any position of influence prior to accepting employment by the Zen Studies Society.
The Faith Trust Institute, and specifically Marie Fortune, has been aware of the sexual abuses at the Zen Studies Society for at least 15 years. Prior to accepting her employment by the Zen Studies Society, she had personally received the anecdotal testimony of teachers from the American Zen Teachers Association and directly from a number of Shimano victims.
...
In Ms. Fortune's defense I will say this: I don't think that she fully realized that the Zen Studies Society is a cult. She should have refused to associate with them.
Regarding, Zogen see
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sanghaconvergence.org/
133 Boris ZOGEN Zoubok DBZ 2010-10-28 Yes
Boris Zoubok has an interesting background.
"Sherry Chyat should take him to Syracuse. - or -
ReplyDeleteJoe Marinello should take him to Seattle. - or -
Richard Rudin should take him to California.
It is thoughtless and cruel for The Zen Studies Society Board of Trustees to continue to inflict Mr. Shimano's presence on the Zen Studies Society."
And Shinge Sherry Chayat and Genjo Joe Marinello should not serve in ANY leadership role. They should IMMEDIATELY remove themselves from their multiple roles and conflicts if interest that they have been clinging to.
If not, they'd each better get a good lawyer.
Dear Lord Buddha,
ReplyDeleteAll adoration and praises.
Please stop Eido Shimano from lying.
P.S. Could you please do it AFTER he gets interviewed by the FBI?
Thank you,
Timmy
" ' Respectfully, while Shimano is still there in any capacity, I think that right now the need is still present.'
ReplyDeleteI do not disagree with this but it seems more important now to, as the next comment suggests,
' Keep up the good fight, but fight clean.'
Taking gratuitous and content empty shots at other contributors here is not watchfulness; it is nastiness and I think it unnecessary and entirely irrelevant to the effort to clean up ZSS. "
Thank you REDdirt, and I agree, that gratuitous and content empty shots at other contributors is not watchfulness. However, one person's "truth" may be another's "nastiness". In many cases, subjective perception is at work. So, I am in favor of allowing speech that may at times be too "nasty", rather than inhibiting speech and creating the danger that "truth" is left unexpressed.
Democracy is not easy!
Gassho
"The house empty of Right Practice can not stand! We should re-enter our Zendo with full & courageous heart & fill it with Good Effort. Taking a position on these painful matters is the beginning of such effort."
ReplyDeleteBravo! Genjo has stated her position, and good for him! Now Roko must do the same, immediately - or be gone!
sorry, I mean that Genjo has stated his position, and good for him!
ReplyDeleteGenjo needs to do more than "make a statement"... He needs to walk-the-walk as well as talk-the-talk.....
ReplyDelete"Genjo needs to do more than 'make a statement'... He needs to walk-the-walk as well as talk-the-talk....."
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree, but making the statement that he did was a good first step.
Things are not that simple.
ReplyDeleteHow ZSS gets funding to keep its operation after this bad publicity and the loss of any contribution from Japan, which is personally connected with ES?
Too much hatred here.
Some just want total destruction driven by revenge.
But what we want is to re-establish the two temples along the direction the late Carlson's envisioned.
I hope that Genjo will advise his Dharma sister that it's still not too late to step back and change course.
ReplyDeleteGenjo needs to do more than "make a statement"... He needs to walk-the-walk as well as talk-the-talk....."
ReplyDelete"He needs to walk-the-walk..."
OK. Here and now lay out this walk you believe Genjo has failed to walk, yet needs to walk.
Seriously and in detail please relate this walk specifically to cleaning up the mess of ZSS.
"We should re-enter our Zendo with full & courageous heart & fill it with Good Effort. "
ReplyDelete...
Oh my goodness, that is the ZSS worst fear, and is the reason that it is not a membership organization with members who vote.
"But what we want is to re-establish the two temples along the direction the late Carlson's envisioned."
ReplyDelete---
"Seriously and in detail please relate this walk specifically to cleaning up the mess of ZSS."
---
I do hope that this can be done.
With respect,
Genjo should encourage his fellow board members to immediately vote unanimously to take the following action:
1) Adopt his statement as the position of the ZSS. Each board member sign it. Publicize it widely. (This should be done today);
2) Delay the installation of the new Abbot, or, in the alternative, vote to designate Shinge Roshi as Interim Abbot (This should also be done today);
3) Amend the bi-laws to require all leadership positions, including the abbot, to be filled through election by the membership (within the next few days);
4) Develop the largest and most far-reaching membership list possible, including the heirs' sanghas - people could be invited to contact ZSS with a request to be part of the voting membership, stating how they are; have been; or will be connected-(this should be done within the next few days);
5) Schedule an emergency election for the purpose of electing:
a)Interim officers, b) an Interim Board, c) a Search Committee to conduct a search for a settled abbot, d) a Nominating Committee, to develop a slate of permanent officers and board members for 2011, to be elected in February or so(schedule the election within the next few days, to be held the third week in January); and e) An Ombudsman or the like for receiving and properly processing ethics and other serious violations
6) Each and every officer and member of the board should then tender their resignations, effective upon the election of the interim officers and board through the emergency election by the membership, to take place in January, following a period of candidacy during which the candidate will publicize their positions on the various issues.
These steps, or the stated purpose of implementing these steps (or something like them) should be taken with all due speed.
Gassho
A clarification: Suggest to have an emergency election in January for interim officers; interim board members; Search Committee; Nominating Committee and Ombudsman; and then another election in February or so to elect permanent 2011 officers and board members.
ReplyDeleteAnd oh yes, the Search Committee would of course reach out to Japan as well as other places, in search of the new ZSS Abott.
The “mess” at Zen Studies heavily involves the institutional culture of hierarchical authority ensconced by Eido Shimano. Not only must Eido go, but also the structure of the ZSS culture needs to be carefully examined and teased apart.
ReplyDeleteGenjo could take a big step by completely disavowing Eido Shimano and simply standing on his own two feet as Genjo Marinello - period. His signature on that petition would change the complexion of American Zen overnight. No one could touch him after that…
Associative titles, ranks and honorifics are mere trinkets for gullible children. When a real teacher stands up and does something, they do so as themselves, they don’t stand on anyone else’s shoulders.
There are some awfully good people rootin’ for ya Genjo…..
Anonymous sais;
ReplyDelete"However, one person's "truth" may be another's "nastiness". In many cases, subjective perception is at work."
Yes. I could have better phrased what I said with this in mind.
I second Maka Kasho's remarks, while cautioning that the process of carefully examining and teasing apart the ZSS culture, while needed, should be done over weeks, not months, or there may be little left.
ReplyDelete"I second Maka Kasho's remarks
ReplyDeleteWhat are you?
A practitioner.
ReplyDeleteMaka Kasho said...
ReplyDelete"Genjo could take a big step by completely disavowing Eido Shimano and simply standing on his own two feet as Genjo Marinello - period."
Genjo refers to this man as a father. Think about this if you were so lucky as to have experienced a father yourself. Then pull the strands apart so as to "disavow without destroying", see it from both the perspective of son and that of father. Very "tricky" doing.
"His signature on that petition would change the complexion of American Zen overnight."
Not likely but perhaps.
"No one could touch him after that… "
Not certain what this means but I believe Genjo tries to do right as he see it to be necessary. Doing this can be dark night lonesome.
Apparently, one of the big struggles within the ZSS Board member deliberations directly concerns Eido Shimano's continuing role in ZSS affairs. Not surprising but,
if Genjo were to resign from ZSS Board over lack of progress in this concern the hill, up which all reform now labors, becomes something having more in common with the face of a cliff than a hill, however steep its slope might now be.
IMO.
Genjo does not have to resign from the Board... Just stand up and speak out the truth clearly and loudly.
ReplyDelete"How ZSS gets funding to keep its operation after this bad publicity and the loss of any contribution from Japan, which is personally connected with ES?
ReplyDelete"But what we want is to re-establish the two temples along the direction the late Carlson's envisioned. "
The Board must take bold drastic action to take a public stand severing ZSS ties to Shimano now. If they do not, unless the ZSS membership goes court to remove the board for its negligence, all will be lost. The Board has legal obligations, and cannot fail to act over sentimentalities, loyalties, or some ill-fated plan, thinking the organization can survive still tethered to Shimano.
Here is a document that seems particularly poignant at this juncture:
ReplyDeletehttp://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-AN/an147092.pdf
“This essay addresses the question posed by Brian Victoria's description of "moral blindness" in twentieth-century Japanese Zen masters by claiming that since Zen monastic training does not include practices of reflection that cultivate the moral dimension of life, skill in this dimension of human character was not considered a fundamental or necessary component of Zen enlightenment. The essay asks what an enlightened moral sensitivity might require, and concludes in challenging the Zen tradition to consider reengaging the Mahāyāna Buddhist practices of reflection out of which Zen originated in order to assess the possible role of morality in its thought and practice of enlightenment.”
Anonymous at 1:27 said:
ReplyDelete"Things are not that simple.
How ZSS gets funding to keep its operation after this bad publicity and the loss of any contribution from Japan, which is personally connected with ES?"
And Shona Washu refers to the possibiity of "moral blindness" in Japanese Zen Masters.
It does seem that there is, indeed, an unresolved moral dilema working against the survival of ZSS.
One may think that they are doing the right thing by appeasing Shimano so that the funds will keep coming from Japan, with the hope of saving ZSS. But isn't it morally bankrupt to maintain Shimano's position just to keep the funds coming in from Japan? And isn't THAT why there is bad publicity that will lead to a loss of funding?
Zogen is just a shill for Jiro, who wants back in.
ReplyDelete"One may think that they are doing the right thing by appeasing Shimano ..."
ReplyDeleteMore like they're probably in ball-busting negotiations with him to stave off selling off what will be left if the current Jiro-written retirement plan can't be stopped.
Anonymous at 4:12 said:
ReplyDelete"Zogen is just a shill for Jiro, who wants back in."
Meaning...what?
I don't know if he is a shill, or not. I think that what he says makes some sense, if you want to see ZSS survive.
Do you?
EL = Spike
ReplyDeleteStop the bs.
Anonymous at 4:15 said:
ReplyDelete" ' One may think that they are doing the right thing by appeasing Shimano ...'
More like they're probably in ball-busting negotiations with him to stave off selling off what will be left if the current Jiro-written retirement plan can't be stopped. "
Why negotiate with him? That just gives him more power. He has breached his contract in a hundred different ways. Let him tell his story walking, or in court, if he has the nerve. And even if they lose everything, they can start from scratch (or at least from five dollars and a suitcase), leaving the material items behind. The material holdings have only gotten in their way. At least they will still have some integrity from which to build back up again.
No, I am not Spike. Never met the guy or gal.
ReplyDeleteBut come to think of it, where IS Spike?
ReplyDeleteZogen is just a shill for Jiro, who wants back in.
ReplyDelete____________________________________________
Would you mind supporting this conclusion with whatever evidence you have?
I don't know about anyone else, but I get tired of ad hominem remarks that distract from the issues raised.
Zogen has made some suggestions. I don't know him and his motivations are not known to me. But I am interested in the suggestions ... whether they hold water, whether they are sensible or whether they fall flat on their face.
Jiro has made some comments ... which I am too lazy to go back and look up. Maybe they have ulterior motives. The fact is, I don't know. But I do know that Jiro has been close enough to the situation at hand so that his views, even if skewed, warrant consideration.
I'm not saying we all have to make nice all the time. But I sure do wish that if we have to make nasty, we might do better than unsubstantiated blanket conclusions about personalities.
But I suppose this is just one more fart in a wind storm.
But come to think of it, where IS Spike?
ReplyDeleteThis is not "Spike' but "Spike" is well known for riding his motorcycle, driving his bus, and walking his dog.
More power in such endeavors. More peace. :)
"But I suppose this is just one more fart in a wind storm."
ReplyDeleteWe pray for much wind and for you to be facing into it.
Anonymous at 4:15 said:
ReplyDelete" ' One may think that they are doing the right thing by appeasing Shimano ...'
More like they're probably in ball-busting negotiations with him to stave off selling off what will be left if the current Jiro-written retirement plan can't be stopped. "
P.S. I pray that the ZSS has gotten themselves a really good lawyer by now. They should be getting all of their assets freezed immediately; the Manhatten Apartment should be put into receivorship; any bank accounts or credit cards that take the Shimanos' signatures should be closed and funds placed into new accounts to which they have no access. Time is of the essense. This is no time to play nice when ZSS assets are at stake, or he'll be using ZSS money to pay for his own expensive lawyers.
"I'm not saying we all have to make nice all the time. But I sure do wish that if we have to make nasty, we might do better than unsubstantiated blanket conclusions about personalities.
ReplyDeleteBut I suppose this is just one more fart in a wind storm. "
Dear Genkaku: Thank you!
Dear Anonymous Who Knows Spike: Thanks also. Didn't want to lose him.
Gassho
Zogen said...
ReplyDelete"I was fortunate enough to meet a Teacher
within the American Rinzai tradition and took Jukai at DBZ."
By process of elimination (-Shimano), who else could this teacher be (+Jiro)?
Zogen does not disclose this, he hides it, making him a shill. Directly or indirectly, he aids Afable.
So-called 'Spike' is a shill to, else they'd be calling him at home.
"EL = Spike
ReplyDeleteStop the bs."
No, but I am a practitioner with a Rakusu bearing Shimano's calligraphy.
"EL = Spike
ReplyDeleteStop the bs."
I'm flattered.
--Spike
And Dear Anonymous, or Anonymouses at 4:12 and 4:55, what, if you would be so kind, are you?
ReplyDeleteGee, thanks, Spike.
ReplyDelete(And welcome back!)
EL = Spike
ReplyDeleteToday Spike rode many wintry country miles (in heated, plugged-in biker gear) on his beemer.
ReplyDeleteP.S. Spike has a similar EL (un)fashion accessory.
ReplyDelete"Spike has a similar EL (un)fashion accessory."
ReplyDelete:)
...what to do with it now?
P.S. EL snow-shoed many wintry country miles.
A kind of walking meditation.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteToday Spike rode many wintry country miles (in heated, plugged-in biker gear) on his beemer.
Given the spike who geezers stuff, this warmly Anonymous "beemer biker" rings true.
Shona Washu,
ReplyDeleteRead the article offered. Good stuff.
It is interesting and very helpful (to me) in providing some background and useful support for Genjo's current reflections re why Eido Shimano is who he is in Zen ways and still seemingly be so clueless in other ways.
Thank you.
EL = Spike = talkative moron
ReplyDeleteThis is what we mean when we speak of completely re-vamping the "culture" at DBZ. The Zen we have been practicing has been lacking fundamental Buddhist practices. This applies to all Japanese Zen, Rinzai, Soto, whatsoever. He says, "At no point in the history of East Asian Zen was skillful engagement in social/moral issues considered to be one of the primary consequences of Zen enlightenment."
ReplyDeleteThis is the deficiency that ZSS presently suffers from and it does so to a large extent because of Eido Shimano's lack of training and his own teacher's likewise lack of attention to morality and social issues. Within the ZSS hierarchy, there is nobody with the requisite moral and ethical training or they wouldn't have completely botched their "Ethics Committee," the staged "Sangha Meeting," and squandered the sage advise of The Faith Trust Institute. Shimano. Chayat, Rudin and Marinello are out in the cold dark world of psychopathic thought-constructs and cannot see clearly.
Uba Kikuta quotes,
ReplyDelete"skillful engagement in social/moral issues"
Uba Kikuta says of this quote,
"we speak of completely re-vamping the "culture" at DBZ. The Zen we have been practicing has been lacking fundamental Buddhist practices. This applies to all Japanese Zen, Rinzai, Soto, whatsoever..."
and
"Chayat, Rudin and Marinello are out in the cold dark world of psychopathic thought-constructs and cannot see clearly."
Perhaps this is so. A clean house is necessary I will take it?
In what manner is such a clean house future to be regarded as employing the "skillful means" suggested in the same article as being necessary in achieving a socially and psychologically more compassionate and "enlightened" Zen practice?
Hopefully your comments will not be taken as useful suggestions because they seem to me to be more reflective of a PolPot attempt at solution than one clearly reflecting the Buddha.
No, REDdirt,I think you misunderstand.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDelete"EL = Spike = talkative moron
December 29, 2010 5:59 PM "
Dear Genkaku and All Blog Faithfuls:
We do not have to allow those who use this Blog to be subjected to those who abuse with language like this. It is particularly offensive because Anonymous at 5:59 used a term that once was used by psychologists to describe the borderline mentally retarded, but which fell into disuse by professionals because it started to be used as a common insult by the cruel and ignorant. As in the case of Eido Tai Shimano, ignoring such abuse does not help.
I for one will not remain silent.Such posts should be removed.Stop it, Anonymous 5:59.
Here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/19930306R_ZSS_Board.pdf
March 6,1993
Eido Roshi declined a request that he undergo counseling.
Oh, go piss up a rope, El. Theoretically, these are big boys and girls writing and reading this blog. They shouldn't be seriously harmed by impolite language, you precious ninny, and if you are, go tell your mommy.
ReplyDeleteREDdirt, by invoking a misplaced analogy to Polpot, you seem more offended by a well-meaning suggestion than the clearly abusive characterization its the previous post.
ReplyDelete"We do not have to allow those who use ..."
ReplyDeleteCan I suggest you open your own blog if you want to control?
EL said...
ReplyDeleteNo, REDdirt,I think you misunderstand.
OK. What is misunderstood?
A suggestion EL. Just ignore the "5:59" style efforts. The blog content here is much easier to navigate when this is practiced.
I'm sorry, I meant to ask, not to demand. Is it indeed,too much to ask? If so, I will leave,no further questions asked.
ReplyDelete"I will leave,no further questions asked.
ReplyDeleteGood idea.
Dear REDdirt - thank you for your efforts - but I'm leaving now. This forum just isn't feeling right for me. Best wishes. I hope that all will go well.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this has been alluded to previously but I just received in email an essay entitled "Satori and the Moral Dimension of Enlightenment" by Dale S. Wright. It is written is clear English and may resonate with some here:
ReplyDeletehttp://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-AN/an147092.pdf
EL,
ReplyDeleteI sent your list of suggestions to Genjo. He thinks there are good ideas and some which are not so good.
You seemingly just silenced yourself despite an earlier the statement you would not be silent.
Leave if you see this as fit.
The people here are not all that tough. There can be a bias towards the impolite in some commentors.
A suggestion. If you choose to return take all comments made in response to what you offer with two grains of salt. Two grains means, take any response as no attack on your self or what you have said.
To do otherwise is to surrender your voice and nothing that occurs here is worthy of so doing.
Genkaku said:
ReplyDelete"... an essay entitled "Satori and the Moral Dimension of Enlightenment" by Dale S. Wright."
That's the one I read earlier.
"To do otherwise is to surrender your voice and nothing that occurs here is worthy of so doing."
ReplyDeleteNice, RD. Said like a true recovered/ing victim - and likely you're not.,
A few questions/thoughts - catching up.
1 - These lines were written by Zogen, not Genjo....."The house empty of Right Practice can not stand! We should re-enter our Zendo with full & courageous heart & fill it with Good Effort. Taking a position on these painful matters is the beginning of such effort."
2 - Maka Kasah, Anan, Shona Washu, Uba Kikuta, - same person, no? Same mind, but more in Shimano lineage,
because....
3 - Eido Shimano has created a long line of injured reputations and I'm sure that Jiro is one of them. We don't know his story of what happened around the writing of Shimano's contract. Given all that we do know about Shimano, one phase of restorative justice could be allowing people to tell their stories without being stoned to death for assumptions that may be based on combinations of pressures/manipulations/deceit, etc that may have been used by Shimano. We just don't know what happened in that time before the lawyer wrote the final contract. To not allow this phase runs risk of playing out distorted information and therefore continuing that Shimano lineage/heritage.
I don't know how else to accomplish that except by all of us feeling a deep remorse for the tragedy of harm done to individuals and relationships and acknowledging that the damage has become viral. Which is why I liked Zogen's sentence just before this other...
"Shimano Roshi's decisive removal from power & influence, is only a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite for change."
A friend of mine went as far as to say that something like an exorcism is required to clean up the place. I agree. And I don't know how that can be accomplished while so many are playing off heirs as if they are Kings in a Chess game. This isn't about whose King is better (even if I have a preference), or elevating the King. That's the old game. Shimano did well in that game. Hope I'm making this point clear. Someone else may do a better job.
4. The new game is...
Olivia,
ReplyDeleteThank you. I always find Right Effort and Right Heart in your postings.
As for “the new game”, let’s see it this way: The Board should see that it is Eido Shimano who has to negotiate with them, and not the other way around. It is Shimano who is culpable, not the board, not the many who express dismay, not Genju or Kobutso, or Speke, but simply Shimano.
Zogen makes the unassailable point that he should be dismissed “for cause”. To do this bold stroke may have legal consequences for ZSS, but the Board will have the advantage. Shimano will have to show that he is “clean”—that he is “innocent”!! Will he hire the lawyers to do this just so he can sue the Board? Is he actually willing to appear in court and face witnesses who will certainly be called against him? There is enough in Shimanoarchives that is so damning HE WILL DO EVERYTHING TO AVOID EVEN MORE PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
If he is "dismissed for cause" past legal contracts with him are no longer binding, since he demonstrably violated the Ethics Guidelines of ZSS.
The Board is in a position of power. The “next step” is to use their power to remove Shimano from ZSS. As Barnum Roshi said, “You can fool some of the Sanga all of the time, and all of the Sangha some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the Sanga all of the time...”
"Shimano Roshi's decisive removal from power & influence, is only a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite for change." (Zogen)
The Board has the power to do this.
Don’t they? Or are they still caught in the “loyalty trap”?
Thanks, REDdirt.
ReplyDeleteGlad to know some of the suggestions may be of help.
Of course you are right about the two grains of salt to help with the negative comments, and keeping my voice.
So, I add my voice to those who say that the Board should vote unanimously to dismiss Shimano for cause.I understand the suffering that comes with loving a father but having to stop him from doing further harm. It is very very hard, but I think Genjo has no choice. My condolences.
Will get back to you later about the Polpot reference.:)
"Of course you are right about the two grains of salt to help with the negative comments, and keeping my voice. "
ReplyDeleteYour voice is an important one EL, stay with us.
”Your voice is an important one EL, stay with us.
ReplyDeleteWe don't need more of laud empty noise.
What he says is nothing new.
'Zogen makes the unassailable point that he should be dismissed “for cause”. To do this bold stroke may have legal consequences for ZSS, but the Board will have the advantage. Shimano will have to show that he is “clean”—that he is “innocent”!!'
ReplyDeleteThis is misguided. Dismissed from what? He is no longer Abbot. He is no longer on the ZSS Board. His title 'Founding Abbot' is honorific, not functional. And I doubt that he is current on his dues!
Prove that he is innocent? That's what they do in authoritarian justice systems, not here!
David Scates said...
ReplyDelete"Oh, go piss up a rope, El."
Not even feasible to attempt, unless you're a boy ...
James Ford wakes up....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.shimanoarchive.com/PDFs/20101230_Ford_ZSS.pdf
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"The Board has the power to do this."
The situation within the board is far more likely to be something like this.
There is now insistence that ES be sequestered, meaning NO ZSS contacts for a set period of time.
There is steel in this demand and this fact has been expressed to the board.
Discussion continues but the "tang" of it has seriously sharpened the focus.
Work continues on bylaws. Right now focus is on January 8th installation ceremony and on terms of ES retirement package.
Another hard rock truth and not only within ZSS temples. Those who support the temple with a physical presence and effort and who regularly pay dues etc are the ones with a "recognizable" voice.
So, perhaps the best way to the end sought here is to rejoin ZSS and make the struggle for moral clarity one conducted at close quarters.
Or simply continue to strangle ZSS by internet. This is working quite well. Doing this work at distance(the internet)comes with the making of implacable enemies. This happens when those who are or feel persecuted cannot make contact with those they have come, and rightly so perhaps, to fear.
An in common conundrum.
"Prove that he is innocent? That's what they do in authoritarian justice systems, not here!"
ReplyDeleteNot true,only a criminal proceeding provides the presumption of innocence. Shimano would have to bring a civil suit to make any claims against ZSS.No such presumption of innocence protects him then.
--Esq
”Your voice is an important one EL, stay with us."
ReplyDelete"We don't need more of laud empty noise.
What he says is nothing new."
I'll stay,whether lauded, insulted,or ignored. Thank you.
Could be the augmentation of voices in unison is something new. Its a matter of perception.
Hmm... Ford said more than I would have expected. But I note he has not joined the flurry of teachers recently signing the Eido Shimano Resignation Petition.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteJames Ford wakes up....
I tried talking with this one months ago about ES and was stonewalled.
Now the earth quakes and he tumbles?
Mr. Ford is more likely taking the now "open" road out of AZTA town than just now waking up.
Its better to rise late than not to rise at all.
;)
I know there's been a lot of criticism that Zen teachers haven't been more vocal. Here's my take on it.
ReplyDeleteIn America we really don't have much of a Zen hierarchy. It's all very decentralized. And I'm guessing most are happy with this development. Who knows what the future will bring.
My feeling is most Zen teachers don't want to get into a game of battling Roshis. Better to let each organization try to rectify itself where issues might come up. I'm sure there's a lot of private interaction as Mr. Ford says in his letter. And I think this is a good thing. It's not to be sneaky or nefarious, just trying to keep things from turning into flame wars.
Now with Eido Shimano's latest letter it really appears that the same old patterns are coming up. And some may finally feel enough is enough. Time to voice stronger public opinions.
With much of the darker history of ZSS exposed on the internet, this place really seems like a train wreck. I'm sure some people have benefited. After all, zazen is zazen. However, context is important and a healthier environment is much needed.
I wish ZSS the best of luck ... but I believe some extreme changes are sorely needed.
"Work continues on bylaws. Right now focus is on January 8th installation ceremony and on terms of ES retirement package."
ReplyDeleteWas the installation moved from Jan 1 to Jan 8?
Nella Lou checks in:
ReplyDeletehttp://enlightenmentward.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/sex-and-the-sangha-letters-and-leadership/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EnlightenmentWard+%28Enlightenment+Ward%29
People keep mentioning "Jiro's pension".
ReplyDeleteAs far as I can see from looking at the Board Meeting minutes in the archive, Jiro has no “pension”. In terminating his employment contract at DBZ, the Board gave him 2 years salary, health insurance for 1 year, housing for 1 year, and moving expenses.
There is no pension, other than the 401K type plan that was funded from his salary during his employment (in the non-profit world this is called a 403B plan.). Contributions to the 403B plan ended when his employment ended.
What Jiro received is called a “lump sum severance payment”, not a pension. Two years salary is not that much to live on, especially when the salary is $43,500 / year. Especially after 10 years of service.
…
On the other hand, Mr. and Mrs. Shimano do have actual pensions that the organization must continue to pay every year until they die: housing, health insurance and % of Salary. The housing portion alone is about $50,000 per year (that is the ZSS cost of owning the 2 Bedroom Upper East Side apartment in a doorman Co-op, worth ~$800,000)
Calculated at $15,000/year in co-op fees plus $35,000 lost income on $800,000.
The Zen Studies Society is rich in real estate but poor in cash. They are poor in cash because most people won't make donations to an organization that covers up for an Abbot who is a sexual predator.
The Board does indeed have cause for throwing Mr. Shimano out.
Instead of hiring Sherry Chyat to be the new abbot, the board should ask Ms. Chyat to stay in Syracuse and to take Shimano with her. Let Chyat's organization support him, not the Zen Studies Society.
http://enlightenmentward.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/sex-and-the-sangha-letters-and-leadership/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EnlightenmentWard+%28Enlightenment+Ward%29
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Nice wrap and rap, Nella Lou.
"On the other hand, Mr. and Mrs. Shimano do have actual pensions that the organization must continue to pay every year until they die: housing, health insurance and % of Salary. The housing portion alone is about $50,000 per year (that is the ZSS cost of owning the 2 Bedroom Upper East Side apartment in a doorman Co-op, worth ~$800,000). "
ReplyDeleteUnless some provable breach is asserted. Hence, the vague apology that admits nothing and the denial letter to the NYT.
ZSS Board, you've been duped. Do you at least have a lawyer yet?
"What Jiro received is called a “lump sum severance payment”, not a pension. Two years salary is not that much to live on, especially when the salary is $43,500 / year. Especially after 10 years of service."
ReplyDelete2 yrs. salary: $977702.32
health (1 yr.): 11976.00
house (1 yr.): 14400.00
moving: 2000.00
TOTAL $126078.32
About 25 - 30% of DBZ's annual ops budget at that time.
Some would argue that this big a severance package is excessive for a charity the size of ZSS.
Two years salary is, indeed, not that much to live on if you plan on not working during that time. Otherwise, it is gravy, especially if you have marketable skills, e.g.,non-profit general managership, fundraising, cabinetmaking, etc.
Hope he gave the money to his wife so she could finish her PhD.
If there was any left, hope he sent his daughter to a nice school with plenty of opportunity to socialize with children who lived near her.
For the Shimanos:
Percentage of salary is 70% for each of their current salaries, to increase 4% (COLA) yearly.
97,702
ReplyDelete"Mr. Ford is more likely taking the now "open" road out of AZTA town than just now waking up."
ReplyDeleteMy big mouth speaks. It retracts the above sentence, aplogizes to Mr. Ford and those concerned for the implication of abandon ship, and more hopefully waits further developments.
"97,702"
ReplyDeleteThat is OBSCENE.
Plus medical, life insurance, Shimano's huge Japanese income, housing, telephone and utilities for life...
ReplyDeleteAnd right now, he's sitting on the beach in the Bahamas chuckling.
Wait, its Anon at 3:01 here. Is the 97,000 what the Shimanos get each year, or what Jiro got as severance? It is not obscene if that was Jiro's sevrance.
ReplyDeleteWith $50,000 year housing; plus 70% of salaries plus COLA; medical, life insurace, etc., its clear that ZSS will either have to take a stand that he is not entitled to it for cause (and make him sue them for it), or resign themselves to starting over completely from scratch.
ReplyDeleteWhy will no one answer whether they have gotten themselves a lawyer?
EL said...
ReplyDelete"Work continues on bylaws. Right now focus is on January 8th installation ceremony and on terms of ES retirement package."
Was the installation moved from Jan 1 to Jan 8?
Whatever day it was announced to happen it will happen. Sorry. I am blog bleary and making mistakes and taking a break. Oh my.
Although I know that the ZSS has only themselves to blame for its demise, I feel very sorry for the many relatively lower level students who have put their trust and many who have actually come to depend upon this organization and their teachers, the heirs - students who probably have known nothing about all of this (I did not know).
ReplyDeleteThe Board, including Roko and Genjo, have been so foolish and negligent, towards the organization, and their students. Roko and Genjo's student justifiably have had faith in their teachers, who have been good teachers in so many ways. But sadly, these horrible lapses of judgment without correction just outweigh the good so much, it is heart-breaking.
As the wolf is at the door, do those on the Board who still consider Shimano their teacher finally see the brutal confict of interest that they have allowed themselves to fall into? The financial, spiritual and moral consequences are devastating.
The idea that they continue to plan and carry out the sepctacle of an installation in the midst of this crisis, with bankruptcy just around the corner, would actual be comical, if it weren't so very real and so very harmful to the students.
May each member of the Board, Roko and Genjo each find themselves new teachers and get all of the help they need as they take each and every step from here, for the sake of their students and themselves.
"Whatever day it was announced to happen it will happen. Sorry. I am blog bleary and making mistakes and taking a break. Oh my."
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean to nit-pick. Its just that stuff is happening and changing so fast - I thought I'd missed something! Not that I'm going, of course. Do take a well-deserved break. Think I will, too. :)
It is astounding that apparently the Board is not dealing with Shimano "at arms length". Old habits die hard. You can be sure he's got legal advise galor working for him behind every step he takes and every word he utters. Yet, the Board is not at least consultng with a lawyer? Or, are they just keeping that a secret. It would seem the membership has a right to know...
ReplyDelete"The idea that they continue to plan and carry out the sepctacle of an installation in the midst of this crisis, with bankruptcy just around the corner..."
ReplyDeleteAnd don't forget the Dec. 9 party to honor Shimano! ZSS needs to do more protecting and less partying.
"Here is a document that seems particularly poignant at this juncture:
ReplyDeletehttp://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-AN/an147092.pdf
“This essay addresses the question posed by Brian Victoria's description of "moral blindness" in twentieth-century Japanese Zen masters by claiming that since Zen monastic training does not include practices of reflection that cultivate the moral dimension of life, skill in this dimension of human character was not considered a fundamental or necessary component of Zen enlightenment. The essay asks what an enlightened moral sensitivity might require, and concludes in challenging the Zen tradition to consider reengaging the Mahāyāna Buddhist practices of reflection out of which Zen originated in order to assess the possible role of morality in its thought and practice of enlightenment.”
This was a very interesting article... I enjoyed reading it very much.
But I just couldn't get past two things - the buddhist precepts, and the precept koans...
Knowing that these two things have existed withinn japanese zen buddhism for centuries just sortof undercut the entire thesis of this paper for me.
Just sitting here pipe-dreaming of a time when this blog thread will no longer be necessary ... and all the people who call themselves "anonymous" might be willing to use their names.
ReplyDelete-- adam
continuing from above...
ReplyDeleteI mean, precept koans are taken up at the end of training as far as i understand - one would assume that in order to "pass" these koans, a student would have to show "enlightened moral sensitivity".... at least that is my assumption.:)
im Shodo genkaku
ReplyDeleteRe. Real names:
ReplyDeleteIt is a question just how tolerant some might be. Fundoshi-san & Mr. Boldie: those two may be carrying a dx. I wouldn't want Scates getting my #! Spike has admitted he's done worse than Shimano, etc.
One pseudonym per contributor might help.
Shodo -- Are you the same Shodo who once was my friend Pedro?
ReplyDeleteAlas no...
ReplyDeleteMy birth name is Zachariah.:)
And not Shodo Harada Roshi
ReplyDeleteWhat does Shodo mean?
"Just sitting here pipe-dreaming of a time when this blog thread will no longer be necessary ... "
ReplyDeleteNecessary?
I think that the Shodo for Harada Roshi means: "Correct Way"
ReplyDeleteMy Shodo means "Blossoming Way" :)
Tho I have been posting as anon... I was not one of the folks throwing out insults and such.
ReplyDeleteI am not affiliated with DBZ or ZSS, but man o man my heart goes out to all that have been hurt by Eido's machinations.
I was the person who just posted at 4:39 and 4:47
More, if it has not already been noted.
ReplyDeleteThey're actually all over the place. Busy day for our archivist! Thanks again, Kobutsu.
http://dangerousharvests.blogspot.com/
Necessary?
ReplyDelete________________________
I suppose we could call it unnecessary, if you prefer, but that sort of cure strikes me as more unfortunate and painful than the medicine.
GENKAKU my ad-aware program kicked in to block access to a malicious website when i attempted to access dangerousharvests. don't know if it was that site or another -- spike
ReplyDelete"Just sitting here pipe-dreaming of a time when this blog thread will no longer be necessary ... and all the people who call themselves "anonymous" might be willing to use their names."
ReplyDeleteDear Genkaku: I, too have been pipe-dreaming of that time. More, I see us all finally gathering, embrassing and revealing our true identities. After I discovered the truth, this blog has been my only Sangha, although I continue with my my zazen. I finally "came out" as "EL". but as a survivor of a kind, David Scates' and others' remarks pushed some buttons that were hard for me to take. Please do not get me wrong. Even though David and others scare me, I believe there is a need for David Scates. However, he still scares me. I will try to keep a constant presence as "EL", and hopefully we all will meet one day without pseudonyms.
As far as I know the board already consulted
ReplyDeletelawyer few months ago. But I am not sure
whether it is to protect the board from
Shimano or from maha-sangha. This information
I learned few months back from several board
members.
The one that completely changed my standing
was Shimano's Dec 1st letter. My guess,
he wrote it by himself, not consulting any
lawyer. This letter betrayed his silence and innocence and revealed his true state of mind.
Right now he and his wife went vacation
somewhere (usually in Carribea). January 6
there will be opening session at Shobo-ji,
expect Shimano returns back.
Thank you. This is good to know.
ReplyDeleteEl -- I am truly sorry if I have indeed really scared you. I can assure you that no untoward intention whatsoever involving you has crossed my mind, save perhaps that exchange of rhetorical views. I appreciate very much the contribution you're making to this discussion, and if anybody gives you any grief, give me a call.
ReplyDeleteThank you David. I believe that I am starting to understand.
ReplyDeleteAnon 715p -- I had no trouble with the site ... are you suggesting I delete the post?
ReplyDeleteThx for verifying the safety of the link. Spike
ReplyDeleteSpike, I checked out the link too and my spyware didn't find anything.
ReplyDeletePart I
ReplyDeleteIt sounds as if the Board may have failed to properly identify who they serve and therefore have not necessarily obtained sound advise for how to proceed to serve their membership, rather than Shimano. They may each, therefore, be liable to the membership for their breach of duty to them.
As 1 p.m. January 1, 2011 rapidly approaches, the Board, including Roko and Genjo, still have a brief but real opportunity to reverse the path of destruction down which their allegiance to Shimano has led them. Time will soon tell whether they will rise to the occasion, or go down in history disgraced and liable for their folly.
If they proceed with the installation as it has been laid out, they will forever shackle their fate to that of Eido Tai Shimano.
Or, they can quickly change course-- but they do not have much time.
If the Board and Shinge Roshi proceed with her installation as Shimano's hand picked successor, instead of carefully and publicly distancing themselves from Shimano and waiting for another time when she or another democratically selected Abott can be methodically and democratically selected, they cannot later easily maintain a strong defense to a claim by Shimano on the grounds that he breached his contract with them.
Having once expressed her gratitude for “Eido Roshi’s uncompromising and penetrating Dharma Eye, which reveals directly the luminous power of the unconditioned mind”, Shinge Roshi must now publicly condemn Shimano's December 1 letter of denial (As Genjo did), and decline at this time his selection of her as Abott. She must instead seek this selection from the membership. A unanimous Board must affirm this course as well.
Rather than literally selling their souls, with the hope of striking a bargain with Shimano, the Board must identify him as their adversary in the cause of saving the ZSS, and protect their organization against him.
If they do not separate themselves from him now, they may forever be foreclosured from interposing a counterclaim against him should he sue them to fully enforce his retirement contract. The December 1 letter provides a opportunity for the Board to credibly change course.If they do not proceed appropriately now, they may never have the chance again.
Part II
ReplyDeleteIf the Board does not act decisively now,how might the testimony go in a court of law upon a suit by Shimano for specific performance of his retirement contract?
Q: Ms. Chayat, you are the Abott of the ZSS, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: And you are aware that the ZSS is attempting to be relieved from their retirement contract with ETS, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: And have you been aware of the allegations against him, to wit, that during his tenure, he breached his fiduciary duty to the ZSS and to his students by enagaging in sexually inappropraite behavior towards his students and financial improprieties with respect to his handling of ZSS money and property, and that these allegations have been made against him over the course of the past two years or more, while you were serving on the Board of the ZSS?
A: Yes.
Q: But even being aware of these allegations, you continued as his student, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: And he hand-picked you to be his successor as Abott of DBZ, and you accepted the position of Abott as his hand-picked successor, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: And following Mr. Shimano's having hand-picked you as his succesor, you have said of him that you are grateful for his "uncompromising and penetrating Dharma Eye, which reveals directly the luminous power of the unconditioned mind.”
A: Yes.
Q: And as you were being selected, you and the ZSS Board also agreed that he should be elevated to the status of "Founding Abott" and that he should stay on at DBZ to train you, and at DBZ and ZSS to teach senior students at their request, correct?
A: Yes, because he gave a sincere apology for his improper behavior, and I believed that he was truly remorseful.
Q: And also around that same time, the Faith Trust Institute recommended removing him immediately, and not allowing him to teach students on ZSS property, correct?
A; Yes.
Q: And during the time in question, you and the Board declined to follow these recommendations, and even organized a party to honor him at DBS on December 9, 2010, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: But on December 1, Shimano had written a letter esentially denying all of the allegations against him, so that in truth, his apology was in fact insincere,correct?
A: Yes, but I didn't know about that letter then.
Q: But then you found out about that letter, and still accepted the Abott's position as his hand-picked successor, didn't you?
A: Yes.
Q: You never publicly expressed any concern about his denial, did you?
A: No.
Q: And you and all of the members of the Board continued to seek his counsel as their teacher, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: And now, you and the ZSS Board would have this jury believe that the ZSS should not be required to honor its retirement contract with ETS?
A: Well...
Your Honor, I have no more questions of this witness.
these EL "proceedings" brought to you by:
ReplyDeleteAhrrrrgh,Glarggler,& Gglumplish.
Barristers-at-Law
Hi EL,
ReplyDeleteI think a civil lawsuit is far more likely to be brought against Eido Shimano for causes, by ZSS than what you suggest might occur above.
ZSS paid his salary, benefits, etc. (honored a contractual agreement).
In return, the organization had the right to expect ES to act in accordance with published ZSS guidelines at the very least.
If this did not happen, it would seem to my unlawerly head, ZSS has a bone worth the picking.
Get lost, EL.
ReplyDelete"Get lost,El"? Nice to see that the clueless parasites infesting this blog are running out of steam completely. Go eat dog poo, 4:41.
ReplyDeleteThe bumper sticker reads, "My honor student can beat up your honor student."
ReplyDeleteLet's try not to be dishonorable students.
"I think a civil lawsuit is far more likely to be brought against Eido Shimano for causes, by ZSS than you suggest might occur above."
ReplyDeleteThat's good to know REDdirt.It would be much better for them to come out on the offensive.
But their narrative in their complaint has to be a clean one. It appears that at present, at least publicly,they are not clearly taking the stand that they must in order to go into court themselves with clean hands.
Shimano's Dec.1 letter has given them that golden opportunity. I hope they don't squander that chance.I hope they can succeed. There are many good people who are relying on them to do so. They do not have much time, and each action they take, or fail to take, in the next 24 hours, will have a substantial direct impact upon whether they can prevail.
That is why I laid out the more bleak scenario,above.(Sort of like to Ghost of Christmas Future).But they have a chance to change that narrative,right now.
Best Regards To All, and again, Thank you,David
“There is now insistence that Eido Shimano be sequestered, meaning NO ZSS contacts for a set period of time.”
ReplyDelete“ZSS Board, you've been duped.”
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Sequestered for a period of time? Sequestered? Eido Shimano has been sexually assaulting and slandering people for 50 YEARS. He must be PERMANENTLY removed from any influence within the organization. No teishos. No honored cushion in the zendo. GONE.
If he wants to continue to see students in his home, go right ahead. He can set up a zendo in his living room, instead of just using his home (which is the ZSS PARSONAGE and Mrs. Shimano's home) as a place to sexually abuse ZSS students. The guy is a total DIRTBAG.
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The Board has NOT been “duped”.
The Board has gotten CAUGHT trying to DUPE their colleagues in the American Zen Teachers Association.
The Board has gotten caught trying to DUPE the New York Times.
The Board has gotten caught trying to DUPE the Faith Trust Institute.
The Board has gotten caught trying to DUPE their own students in the ZSS.
The Board has gotten caught trying to DUPE their fellow Trustees.
The Board has gotten caught trying to DUPE all of us here who have already escaped from the ZSS, but remember all too well their tactics of deception.
“Sequestering” is another of those DECEPTIVE tactics.
The Board is now solely comprised of people who will say anything to keep their beloved cult leader in the organization. As has happened over the past 40 years, the Trustees who are repulsed by attending those co-psychopathic Board meetings have resigned. They're long gone. Clever plots, deceptions, secrets, whispering, smoke screens, one long stream of trying to pull people into the sleaze.
EIDO SHIMANO IS A SERIAL AND PREDATORY SEX OFFENDER. He is a LIAR.
He must be permanently removed from the premises so that the organization can get on with the “exorcism”. Sherry Chyat, Joe Marinello (shocked!), and Richard Rudin must go with him. Good riddance.
"But their narrative in their complaint has to be a clean one. It appears that at present, at least publicly,they are not clearly taking the stand that they must in order to go into court themselves with clean hands."
ReplyDeleteThe ZSS Board does not have "clean" hands. Nor will washing them now redress the past.
However, in civil court anyone can sue anyone else. ZSS can sue Eido Shimano and his repeated egregious behaviors as being the direct cause of the now occuring loss of institutional viability and if I were on a jury hearing this position I would most likely agree.
Civil cases must be decided by unanimous vote. The day when Eido Shimano can convince a jury ZSS has wronged him will be a hot one in hell.
"The Board is now solely comprised of people who will say anything to keep their beloved cult leader..."
This one is clearly not paying attention.
Two more letters to Zss Board from AZTA members urging Eido Shimano be barred for ZSS published in Monkey Mind Zen blog this morning.
ReplyDeletePressure is rising. This is public support for those within the Board seeking to just break off cleanly.
Here is the link to the additional letters:
ReplyDeletehttp://monkeymindonline.blogspot.com/
The topmost link on Google will get you there.
Or, more directly, perhaps:
ReplyDeletehttp://monkeymindonline.blogspot.com/2010/12/letters-from-zen-teachers-to-zen.html
Life is better negotiated within the realm of what is possible rather than what is not.
ReplyDeleteWhat is not possible is this realm which insists, unconditionally, on first step being
"He must be permanently removed from the premises so that the organization can get on with the “exorcism”. Sherry Chyat, Joe Marinello (shocked!), and Richard Rudin must go with him. Good riddance."
This goal might come to be the case within ZSS but, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN THIS WAY, and only because, it is simply not possible.
The day when Eido Shimano can convince a jury ZSS has wronged him will be a hot one in hell.
ReplyDeleteSorry. its always hot in hell. This makes more sense as, it will freeze solid in hell.
The Zen Studies Society Board should immediately convene:
ReplyDelete1. Shut down Dai Bosastu monastery for an indeterminate time. This has frequently been done in winters past to save fuel.
2. Shut down New York Zendo Shobo-ji. This has also been frequently done.
3. Do not install a new abbot.
4. Rescind all payment agreements with the Shimanos.
5. Contact the appropriate regulatory agencies for guidance: NYState Attorney General, NY State Dept. of State, IRS
6. Appoint an interim Board of Directors.
7. Facilitate an orderly transfer of responsibilities to the Interim Board; all current Board members resign.
For all the Roko and Genjo haters (From Monkeymindonline):
ReplyDeleteI want to say that I am grateful and am relieved that Eido Shimano has resigned from his abbacy and the Zen Center Board, and that you have identified good, strong leaders to take over your center.
I would also ask you to commit to adequate remediation* for those who were subject to his predation and his sexual and physical abuse, and make public your stance in all this.
-–Joan Halifax
*(so important--Spike)
I am writing in regard to the retirement of Eido Shimano Roshi and the installation of Shinge Roko Sherry Chayat Roshi as your new abbot. Congratulations on taking this important step!
--From Dosho Port, Sensei
I am writing in regard to the current situation at Zen Studies Society and Dai Bosatsu Zendo. I am a Zen Buddhist teacher and have known Roko Chayat, Shinge-roshi, for many years. I was much pleased and relieved to hear that she has been named your next abbot. I have the utmost confidence that she has the ability to guide your organization during and through these difficult times.
I have also known Genjo Marinello for quite some time. I have the utmost confidence in his ability, also, and I am hopeful that he can take a leading role on your Board of Directors.
-- Nonin Chowaney, Roshi
"In your face."
--Spike
Unfortunately many people (perhaps even those same people) used to say those same things (perhaps even less than a month ago) about Eido himself.
ReplyDeleteNot so.
ReplyDeleteChristopher would have posted his proof if it were true.
ReplyDeleteChristopher,
ReplyDeleteI've read your posts elsewhere - on Zen Forum International for example - and have much respect for the insights you've made.
This morning while in a yoga class and trying not to think about all of this (not successfully) my whole being was saying that what is happening now, via the letters, is missing n critical piece. It's alluded to in Joan Halifax's letter.
Is there any way to communicate with you directly? I vaguely remember that you may be based in Germany?
In any case, thanks for your care and clarity.
Olivia -- Perhaps you would share your thoughts of what is missing here?
ReplyDeleteAlways good to keep in mind
ReplyDelete"The game aint over till the fat lady sings."
I believe this can be attributed to NBA coach Pat Reilly or to the GM of the Celtics, Red .... whose last name I do not recall. Maybe Yogi Berra.
OK - it's 5:30 and I should be walking out the door to join friends for the evening. But no, I'm reading the letters on Ford's blog and back here again on Adam's. This is a monumental time in Zen history, and I most hear it described in the Halifax letter.
ReplyDeleteJoan is addressing suffering. The Buddha began by recognizing suffering, feeling suffering and wanting to end suffering. This has dignity. Not just the end, but also the beginning. My suffering has dignity and so does yours.
Some people here are suffering and today I'm one of them. More and more teachers are coming forward to speak about ending the sexual exploitation of women by Buddhist teachers, and as Halifax Roshi expresses, it's just one responsiblility we as Buddhist have in this world where so much of this exists. To see this in writing is immensely moving - to say the least.
I'm also very sensitive today to the many men who have suffered as a result of being students of Eido Shimano. I'm very very aware (because I've experienced it) of the damage done to ones entire reputation via the need for Shimano to right himself. This extends to past boards who would not/ could not confront Shimano, and we've seen examples of it continuing. This is not a dismissal of good intentions of the present board, because I believe and have seen that they exist too.
But...
Something huge is missing here and I'm very troubled by it. I also have to go :))- one hour late now - and will continue thinking this through. One piece, and only one piece, may be that the letters coming in to Ford's blog represent only one sector of this "suffering". The truly disenfranchised whose voices have been dismissed through the toxicity of Eido Shimano complicit boards are not being heard. It's another club of sorts, and as much as I do appreciate what they are saying and the strong stand they ask for by removing Shimano, it is NOT doing justice to people who have worked hard to bring this day about.
Ok - really got to go. Help appreciated - still thinking. May wish I left in time!
David,
ReplyDeleteCall your mother!
Olivia writes,
ReplyDelete"The truly disenfranchised whose voices have been dismissed through the toxicity of Eido Shimano complicit boards are not being heard."
For quite some time it was the disenfranchised who suffered Olivia.
Now we have the truly disenfranchised? The true "no voice" group of victims and survivors and ... what is to be done about these poor and suffering souls?
For me, EL comes right to mind. A silent voice no longer silent. But she chooses as everyone of your "true" do not. There is no truth to this no way to find ones voice idea. Your own efforts to provide a safe forum for the victimized are a good indication of why this is not so.
I suggest you suffer now for the loss of what I can only describe as "the ironic anarchy of those apparently dispossessed" and I think you do not notice it even as you write it out.
"... it is NOT doing justice to people who have worked hard to bring this day about."
Perhaps not Olivia. Perhaps this sentence well describes this "something is missing hole" you report feeling. You might feel that a tide has turned and it has done so not because people and voices chose to stick with it long ago and did so. I most sincerely doubt this is even remotely possible. Good for These Stalwart Ones. Others began not nearly so long ago and these Not So Stalwart Ones, the not chrisophers genkakus and kobutsus etc., are no less a part of what only may have begun to finally move.
THANK YOU, OH STALWART ONES! Thank you.
OK? :) Straight on Olivia. As you feel it necessary and appropriate I have faith in your ability to do something useful about it.
I will hope and pray the momentum now achieved translates into a ZSS board vote of expulsion from the affairs and premises of ZSS and the one expelled is Eido Shimano.
That will be another good day.
I sent this to ZSS:
ReplyDeleteTo: Joe (Soun) Dowling, Board President, Zen Studies Society
From: Adam Genkaku Fisher
Subject: Eido Tai Shimano
Dear Mr. Dowling:
Given the number of ranking Zen teachers who have recently broken their silence on Eido Tai Shimano's misadventures, I write to you with some hesitance. By this time, you know the gist of the argument and may well be overwhelmed by the work that that argument entails. Nevertheless, I wish to add my non-ranking voice to theirs and say simply that I hope you will act decisively and divest Zen Studies Society of any connection with Mr. Shimano. It may be difficult, but there comes a time when we all have to speak the one word that covers the topic. That word is a resounding, "No!"
As someone who lived through three of Mr. Shimano's aptly-titled Fuck Follies in the late 1970's and early 1980's, I was and remain keenly aware of the confusion, anger, defensiveness and remorse that the current uproar occasions. I would be a liar if I said there were not some personal interest in my concerns.
But overriding my own feelings are two important aspects of the case: 1. To decline or sidestep taking decisive -- and I mean decisive -- action to remove Eido Tai Shimano carries with it the implication that Zen Buddhism in fact condones such malicious behavior ... and this sullies and demeans the Zen Buddhism that holds out an unsullied promise. Zen Buddhism is not just some good ol' boys club in which people act with impunity because they are something called "Zen Buddhists;" and 2. The importance of Sangha cannot be overstated. That's two-arms-and-two-legs, living, breathing, weeping and laughing individuals. Sangha is not called one of the Triple Gems just because that sounds good or sounds holy or sounds laudable. Sangha really is what makes Buddhism what it is. Sangha creates temples. Sangha creates teachers. Sangha works hard ... and anyone who messes with that or demeans that declares him- or herself an outcast, a lawless person, a person worthy of consideration, perhaps, but NOT of embrace.
There are those who would like to imagine that compassion fills their hearts when they excuse or explain or find meaning in the actions of a man like Eido Tai Shimano. But when the evidence spans decades, when the endless offers of help are consistently met with lies and evasions, and when the depredations continue unabated, the case becomes very simple. No more yes-but's, no more 'compassionate understanding' that simply masks a lack of will. Under the circumstances, the response deserves to be an unmitigated, "No!" Whatever the cost -- "No!"
Please do your best to bring Zen Studies Society back into a credible -- rather than 'unconditioned' -- realm. Please sever all connection with Eido Tai Shimano. As there is no such thing as being "a little bit pregnant," so there is no compromise in this situation that will do anything more than assure a continuation of what has been both painful and malicious.
I wish you the best,
adam genkaku fisher
"I hope you will act decisively and divest Zen Studies Society of any connection with Mr. Shimano. It may be difficult, but there comes a time when we all have to speak the one word that covers the topic. That word is a resounding, 'No!'"
ReplyDeleteNicely done, Genkaku.
Thank-you for this blog, and Happy New Year!
--EL
"ZSS can sue Eido Shimano and his repeated egregious behaviors as being the direct cause of the now occuring loss of institutional viability and if I were on a jury hearing this position I would most likely agree."
ReplyDeleteYes, ZSS has a good chance, I'd say. May they make their best case by ousting Shimano post haste.
Happy New Year REDdirt, Olivia, Spike, David, Genkaku, Kobutsu, and ALL others on this blog
--EL
Christopher said...
ReplyDelete" Unfortunately many people (perhaps even those same people) used to say those same things (perhaps even less than a month ago) about Eido himself."
So very true, Christopher.
So, at the party a woman I never met began talking about all the reasons why it's unhealthy to be a vegetarian. She included Jewish food laws, nutritional facts and added that humans are the only species who continue to drink cow milk beyond infancy. For her the logical conclusion was "so what else can you do but eat the cow". She looked around with a kind of pleased finality.
ReplyDeleteSo I started to laugh and I couldn't stop. I tried to stop - walked into another room - composed myself - walked back. I got an unfriendly look from the woman and ... started to laugh again. Some people thought it was amusing until I started to cry - or something between laughing and crying. I pulled myself together, apologized, and said - there are few people who know how to listen and of those who speak few know what they're talking about - unless they've been a cow.
CONGRATULATIONS to those of rank for your first major step. May it be a year of coming closer to the vital and life giving practice Zen Buddhism is intended to be - for all - Happy New Year.